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What size generator for stove blower

Post in 'The Gear' started by steeltowninwv, Aug 29, 2013.

  1. steeltowninwv

    steeltowninwv Minister of Fire

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    I know I need to check my manual for amps and voltage. But I have a enviro Venice 1700 insert. I wanna get a generator for power outages. Mainly just to run the fan on the insert. So in general what size do I need?

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  2. begreen

    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    Stove blowers are fairly low powered, usually under 200W. Check the motor rating. If you have extended outages (more than a day or two) you will want a small genny that is miserly on gas and designed to run a long time.
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  3. RSNovi

    RSNovi Feeling the Heat

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    Just for the fan it would probably be no more then 200 watts. Probably can't even find a generator that small. Probably could rig up a car battery and an inverter.
  4. begreen

    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    +1 if the outages are reasonably short.
  5. mellow

    mellow Resident Stove Connoisseur

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    I have a large UPS hooked up to mine, if you get 30-60 minute drops in power then I would look at that. Anything longer would require a car battery and inverter or hooking up the generator. I have a 7500watt peak generator, but I only hook it up if I am certain power will be out for a while, I run a lot more than the insert fan with that.
  6. begreen

    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    Unless the intent is to destroy the battery it's best to not deplete it all the way. Usually you want to go go no further than 60% discharge. Our outages can last a week here. Keeping food preserved in refrig and freezer becomes the priority.
  7. begreen

    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    There are several threads on this topic in the gear and DIY rooms.
  8. BrotherBart

    BrotherBart Hearth.com LLC Mid-Atlantic Division Staff Member

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    When I measured the blower on the 30-NC it ran at max 90 watts. The blower is secondary for me. After I get power to the refrigerators the stove blower comes along for the ride.
  9. RSNovi

    RSNovi Feeling the Heat

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    I agree that one of the smaller generators can support the blower and maybe some other items like a freezer.
  10. mellow

    mellow Resident Stove Connoisseur

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  11. velvetfoot

    velvetfoot Minister of Fire

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    Hey, they're red now!
    If I recall, my blue does the insert fan, a couple of cfls, and TV and/or Fridge. The Fridge surges once in a while as I recall.
    Last time, I used the Honda 2000. No worries. I still like my little blue guy though.
  12. timfromohio

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    Running a generator full-time (unless you absolutlely must have life-as-usual) in an outage just isn't economical. I'd recommend a deep-cycle battery and an inverter, or better, a deep cycle bank and multiple inverters depending on the load you want to manage at any given time. You can get an 800watt inverter and keep refridgerator/freezers cold by cycling them once a day for several hours and running off of your (idling) car. For the blower fan, a single deep cycler and 400 watt inverter would be enough for days (easily) before charging. Personally, I have a 7200 watt (8200 peak) generator which I use only to charge a deep cycle battery bank or run for short (several hour) periods during an outage. I can use my deep cycle bank (with 800 and 1600 watt inverters) to power most things I need to power. Then, run the genset to charge the bank every few days.
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    i would get the HF gennerator. a deepcycle batt, but those will go bad over time, and a inverter for like 400w. Also a solar charger would be a good thing if you go with the Deepcycle batt.
  14. steeltowninwv

    steeltowninwv Minister of Fire

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    Think I will go with the 1200 watt. 2 stroke generator from northern tool
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    mellow Resident Stove Connoisseur

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    Don't forget you can take the surround off during a power outage as well to help keep the insert from over firing.
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    I would seek out a used Honda 2,000 watt inverter. The 2 stroke HF generators are annoyingly loud.
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    velvetfoot Minister of Fire

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    They really aren't that bad. Noisier than the Honda, but then, what isn't? What's a little annoying about the Honda is that it doesn't have a separate fuel shut off-the ignition and fuel switches are combined into one.
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    I purchased a yamaha 2400ISHC generator 2 years ago and it has performed flawlessly though too hurricane power outages Irene and Sandy. Right now I have 211hrs on it with the only maintenance being oil changes. I can also get 11-13hrs out of 1.6 Gallons of gas. If you are ever considering a honda look at yamaha first they are known to be just as reliable while getting more wattage and features at a lower price.
    http://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/Yamaha-EF2400ISHC-Portable-Generator/p4433.html
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    steeltowninwv Minister of Fire

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    But that one is 1200/1000 where the hf one is like 1000/800 or 600/800? Don't remember.
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    I didn't see a displacement on one, I forget which.
  25. MasterMech

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    That generator shows up all over with a few different ratings. 800w is pretty honest. ;)

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