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  1. skyline Burning Hunk

    joined: Oct 29, 2009
    190 posts
    Oregon
    Our first day without rain for a while and I thought these pictures show clearly how the wood touching the ground, even if its asphalt, (which is why I didn't bother putting down sleepers) doesn't dry. Every inch above the ground helps the wood dry a little better.

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  2. LLigetfa Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 9, 2008
    7,310 posts
    NW Ontario
    Ja, at one time I used to lay down stringers and a first course of junk Poplar as sacrificial wood and put my good wood on top of that. Then I switched to using pallets.
  3. Scotty Overkill firewood hoarder

    joined: Sep 24, 2011
    6,823 posts
    central PA
    Yeppers, thats why we use pallets. And those pallets go bad rather quickly, but the wood on top of those pallets dries out nicely. Good post, Skyline...
  4. JoeyD Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jun 15, 2008
    390 posts
    South Jersey
    That is why I also use pallets. This year I found a guy selling plastic pallets for $5 so I bought 10 of them. He ended up giving me 14 because a couple had some cracks. Time will tell if it was worth it. I stacked oak on 6 of them 5 feet high and they seem to fine so far.
  5. timusp40 Burning Hunk

    joined: Feb 3, 2010
    232 posts
    Lake Orion, Michigan
    Skyline,
    Great photos that speak for themselves. Also the reason why I took the advise from Hearth menbers and keep the wood off the ground!
    Tim

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  6. Woody Stover Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 25, 2010
    3,398 posts
    Southern IN
    I stacked the last few cords on pallets with bricks under the 2x4s. Those pallets should be there a long time. I'm also experimenting with landscape timbers supported by concrete half-blocks laid on their sides.
  7. Gark Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 27, 2007
    701 posts
    SW Michigan
    It has been said here that the air is more moist closer to the ground. That leaves another reason to lift the stacks, but we don't know how high they need to be. Sort of explains why the upper splits are dryer than the lower splits. Ours are 3" above grade and I wonder if that's high enough.
  8. timusp40 Burning Hunk

    joined: Feb 3, 2010
    232 posts
    Lake Orion, Michigan
    Woody,
    Same here. If you can get the pallets and bricks or something else for cheap, why not? Some of my stacks are on downhill ground so I figure when it rains, let the water run right on through.
    Tim
  9. skyline Burning Hunk

    joined: Oct 29, 2009
    190 posts
    Oregon
    Gark,

    Yes the humidity is definitely higher closer to the ground. All 3 factors, source of moisture, lower temps, and less air movement contribute. Pallets are good but pallets and a vapor barrier is even better, especially in a wood shed. The ground is an endless supply of moisture. I won't be so lazy next time, even on asphalt.
  10. Backwoods Savage Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 14, 2007
    24,170 posts
    Michigan
    Good post skyline.
  11. Backwoods Savage Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 14, 2007
    24,170 posts
    Michigan

    Gark, we typically stack 3" above ground and sometimes less and have no problems. However, if I lived on clay ground I'd stack higher, but we live on yellow sand and you won't find much standing water here. Water goes through sand like a sieve. When in doubt, go a couple inches higher.
  12. nate379 Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 21, 2010
    4,006 posts
    Palmer, Alaska
    I am going to start redoing my wood stacks this summer once the snow melts and everything dries up. The ground is not level so it's a pain to shim everything or stack at an angle. Gonna make a "bed" for the pallets with gravel or maybe crushed rock.
  13. weatherguy Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 20, 2009
    2,716 posts
    Central Mass
    I have that problem too, not sure if its as bad as your land but I use bricks to level the pallets and sort of tie the pallets together to make them more stable.
    You can see on this part of my rack

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  14. timusp40 Burning Hunk

    joined: Feb 3, 2010
    232 posts
    Lake Orion, Michigan
    I like it! Stack it, dry it, burn it and you are a happy camper. Good set up Weatherguy.
    Tim
  15. nate379 Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 21, 2010
    4,006 posts
    Palmer, Alaska
    Yeah pretty much same as what you have. I'm going to also cut some pallets up to make my rows 6ft wide instead of 4. Right now I have to hang the first and last rows off the ends to allow for some space on teh middle row.

  16. JP11 Minister of Fire

    joined: May 15, 2011
    812 posts
    Central Maine
    I've bought close to 150 pallets so far.

    It takes 3 pallets and a 8 foot 2x3 to make a U that I use.

    So 9 pallets per cord. I found a nice old couple that deliver me 30 at a time for 2 bucks each.

    Handling the wood fewer times is priceless. It goes right on the U from the spiltter. Next time I touch it will be to put it in the Vigas.

    JP
  17. Adabiviak Feeling the Heat

    I like the idea of lifting the pallets off the ground a touch with some spare bricks.
  18. Oregon Bigfoot Feeling the Heat

    joined: May 21, 2011
    257 posts
    Northwest Oregon
    In my driveway, I've been using 1" by 4 foot runners under my wood, because my driveway is only a temporary holding area for a few months, until I get time to put it in the wood shed. Even one inch off the driveway, it really helps with drying. Water does not pool at all under splits.
  19. Redlegs Feeling the Heat

    joined: Feb 16, 2012
    258 posts
    Eastern Kansas
    I've started usng pallets too after seeing some of the setups on here and reading about how it helps with drying. I first started stacking wood on some railroad tie...anybody else try those? I liked them b/c they're heavy and felt stable. I disliked them b/c they are so heavy its not practicle to move them it you wanted to clean up/reorganize the woodlot. I've wondered about "bad chemicals" from the railroad ties seeping into the firewood - anyone heard of this? I've not seen the wood looking discolored but as I just installed a new insert and liner, I wouldn't want it gooked-up with chemicals.
  20. LLigetfa Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 9, 2008
    7,310 posts
    NW Ontario
    I'd love to get my hand on some old railway ties to lay on the ground to elevate the pallets. My dad used ties butted tight together to make the floor in his woodshed. He had a railroad cross his land and the workers would drop off more ties than he could ever use in a lifetime.
  21. BobUrban Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 24, 2010
    944 posts
    Central Michigan
    I put plastic under my pallets because I had some(a lot) from a 100' slip-n-slide we made a couple years ago. I was thinking it would help keep the grass and weeds from growing up and through but now think it will also help preserve the pallets a little longer. I have unlimited access to them but changing out rotted pallets every season or two does not sound like much fun. Time will tell if my experiment helps with weeds or pallet longevity but I have lots of that so we will see.
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  22. jeff_t Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 14, 2008
    2,694 posts
    SE MI
    This is why I stack it up off the ground. This is after the second back to back 4" rainfalls from overnight t-storms late last summer. The bottom two rows of splits were in water.

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  23. cptoneleg Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 17, 2010
    1,373 posts
    Virginia
    My Ash----Oak and B L--Ground it and it will rot. SDC10430.JPG SDC10431.JPG SDC10432.JPG
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  24. Pat53 Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 21, 2010
    519 posts
    UP Mich
    In my woodshed I put down a 2" layer of 2"-3" crushed limestone rock on top of sand and the wood stays bone dry.

    Pat
  25. timusp40 Burning Hunk

    joined: Feb 3, 2010
    232 posts
    Lake Orion, Michigan
    Like they said in the olden days. Got to keep your powder dry boys! Tough when you have low ground. Hopefully things will dry out for you during the summer months.

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