madrone said:http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/01/110126091443.htm
Discuss.
TMonter said:madrone said:http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/01/110126091443.htm
Discuss.
Unrealistic at best, pure fantasy at worst.
btuser said:Talkin' bout together now!
How do you OWN a distributed network? How do you OWN the wind, or the sun? That's why its never going to happen, because there's no way to take something for free and make people pay for it. If you can't obtain central control the rich are not interested in doing it. The government is not going to do a damn thing to help us.
madrone said:btuser said:Talkin' bout together now!
How do you OWN a distributed network? How do you OWN the wind, or the sun? That's why its never going to happen, because there's no way to take something for free and make people pay for it. If you can't obtain central control the rich are not interested in doing it. The government is not going to do a damn thing to help us.
The cynic in me agrees. That's why I also agree with TMonter, in a way. I think it's technically doable, but requires too much change from the current economy to actually happen in even 40 years. Regardless, the optimist in me will continue to move in that direction in my own choices about energy.
btuser said:The government is not going to do a damn thing to help us.
jharkin said:The major argument against this happy future coming to pass that often gets discussed at sites like the Oil Drum goes like this:
Today all our factories are still running on oil/coal/etc
If we want to run the world on solar and wind you have to build all the turbines in those factories that run on oil/coal.
If oil is already in decline, where do you find the spare energy to build the panels/turbines in the first place?
The alternative is build panels in a solar powered factory, and then use those panels to power a second factory and then scale up. But can we do that fast enought to offset the decline in conventional energy?
And this all assumes the climate or a recession doesnt throw a wrench in the plan...
Adios Pantalones said:Why can't oil/coal energy be used to produce solar panels etc now or in the near future for a conversion of some power sources? I don't get it.
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