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mpcm

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I haven't been here much since the forum change over, but wanted to check back in with some changes I made this last heating season. For those that have read my prior years posts, you'll know I wasn't thrilled with my enviro empress. I'm not unhappy with it, just had reasonable regrets about performance and ash build up. This also extended to the quality issues I had with NEWP pellets and my stove.

Well, this winter those regrets went away.... mostly. So, what changed? I added an outside air in take, despite the fact it did not connect directly to the burn pot (see my prior posts if you are stunned by this... the empress has an air gap). My house is far from air tight, even so it seems to have helped. I also just purchased 6 tons of okies upfront and decided not to worry about the cost in that respect. I minimized my delivery charge (flat $30 charge) and took advantages of a 3% cash back rewards program from my vendor (East coast Lumber, in Hampstead NH).

End result... rarely turned the stove about 2 most of the winter... except some really cold days where it was on 3 (of 5). Ash production was manageable and allowed more spaced out cleanings. Stove got pretty full of ash at times, but kept warm and burning well, something I couldn't even attempt to do before these changes.

I made some other changes to my house, thermal curtains to segment my heating zones more definitively, which results in a much warmer section with the stove, but that aside the stoves behavior was just that much more different, I wanted to post to say... if you don't have an air intake... get one. Everyone has an opinion on them, I just wanted to state mine. Oh, and good pellets used with picky stoves can make a *huge* difference. My $0.02 from this last season.
 
Glad that you are happy with it and I would like to offer a different perspective here if I may. Forget the outside air kit, that may have helped a little. Thi "BIG BANG" here is the upgrade in pellets. Going from NEWP (I don't care WHAT mill they are from) to Okies will put smiles on the faces of even the most disheartened pellet stove owners. OAK may have helped, but to not under estimate the value of your wood pellet upgrade. In one season you went from "Janet Reno" to "Kate Upton"....Nice! :)
 
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Glad that you are happy with it and I would like to offer a different perspective here if I may. Forget the outside air kit, that may have helped a little. Thi "BIG BANG" here is the upgrade in pellets. Going from NEWP (I don't care WHAT mill they are from) to Okies will put smiles on the faces of even the most disheartened pellet stove owners. OAK may have helped, but to not under estimate the value of your wood pellet upgrade. In one season you went from "Janet Reno" to "Kate Upton"....Nice! :)
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I haven't been here much since the forum change over, but wanted to check back in with some changes I made this last heating season. For those that have read my prior years posts, you'll know I wasn't thrilled with my enviro empress. I'm not unhappy with it, just had reasonable regrets about performance and ash build up. This also extended to the quality issues I had with NEWP pellets and my stove.

Well, this winter those regrets went away.... mostly. So, what changed? I added an outside air in take, despite the fact it did not connect directly to the burn pot (see my prior posts if you are stunned by this... the empress has an air gap). My house is far from air tight, even so it seems to have helped. I also just purchased 6 tons of okies upfront and decided not to worry about the cost in that respect. I minimized my delivery charge (flat $30 charge) and took advantages of a 3% cash back rewards program from my vendor (East coast Lumber, in Hampstead NH).

End result... rarely turned the stove about 2 most of the winter... except some really cold days where it was on 3 (of 5). Ash production was manageable and allowed more spaced out cleanings. Stove got pretty full of ash at times, but kept warm and burning well, something I couldn't even attempt to do before these changes.

I made some other changes to my house, thermal curtains to segment my heating zones more definitively, which results in a much warmer section with the stove, but that aside the stoves behavior was just that much more different, I wanted to post to say... if you don't have an air intake... get one. Everyone has an opinion on them, I just wanted to state mine. Oh, and good pellets used with picky stoves can make a *huge* difference. My $0.02 from this last season.

Good upgrade on the pellets, I used them from the same place and had definitely no complaints. You may also want to try Cubex, I found those seem to be slightly better from a local supplier in Pelham NH.

As far as the OAK goes, there are pros and cons with No Oak or Oak, I found that with an OAK, it draws in damp air in the early morning hours that can cause a little more ash buildup. Certainly makes the house seem warmer than no OAK, since no burn air is pulled in through the cracks of the house. This season I finally bit the bullet and went the full route with the Selkirk DT venting with the built in OAK, that warms and dries the burn air by bringing it in through a 3rd wall in the flue. I had to get the masonry conversion kit with a stainless steel liner, it is the most complex and expensive kit. However it is worth every penny! Better than the regular OAK and also better than no OAK. Great way to go!
When I installed the Garage pellet stove this past winter, I automatically went with the Selkirk Up & Out DT pellet and corn venting kit! Great if I ever burn a 50/50 corn mix too!
See pics > > https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/raised-waterproof-wood-pellet-stove-hearth-for-garage.104197/
 
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