30-NC owners

[Northwind]

Do you have any pics of your stove installed??? I'm planning on replacing my wonderwood with a Englander 30-NC in a few weeks. I think I may need to add some tile. This is in the finished part of the basement. The house is 2400 sq. ft. 1200 upstairs and 1200 in the basement. This one heats the house well but looking for a longer burn time and using less wood.


Thanks
Chris

 

[Hiram Maxim]

:cheese:

My Buddies dog "Dash" soaking up all the heat!

 

[begreen]

It looks like the tiles are 8". Is this correct? If so, the hearth appears to be 72" deep by 80" across. That is generous. If I'm reading it correctly, according to the manual the 30NC requires a minimum 48" x 48" hearth.

Clearances are measured to combustibles. The cinderblock chimney is not combustible. If the tiles are laid on a cement floor, it looks like the stove will fit well without modification to the hearth.

 

[Wet1]

It also looks to me like your hearth is large enough as is, but you might want to consider putting some type of (fire)protection over the carpet in front of the stove since the 30 will obviously stick out further and will be loaded from the front.

Worst case scenario, you could easily add another row or two of tile to the front of the hearth.

 

[summit]

should fit fine, and since those stoves are top vent, you can actually back it up a little.

 

[Northwind]

Thanks for the feedback. I updated the pic with measurements. I think I may be close on the left side since the tile was set up for this stove. Any recommendations for a trim strip on the tile/linoleum side to help keep the tile from chipping or I should say chipping more?

 

[BrotherBart]

I don't know where they came up with those dimensions on the ESW website but my 30-NC is 31 inches from the back of the rear heat shield to the tip of the front ash lip. A good bit more than the 24 1/2" that they show on the site. Heck the thing is 28 1/4" from the back of the heat shield to the front of the door.

A 30 is gonna be a monster sitting in that space. Make you up a cardboard box 31 inches deep by 24 inches wide by 28 inches high and sit it on that hearth and see what will be working with.

 

[Northwind]

I don't know where they came up with those dimensions on the ESW website but my 30-NC is 31 inches from the back of the rear heat shield to the tip of the front ash lip. A good bit more than the 24 1/2" that they show on the site. Heck the thing is 28 1/4" from the back of the heat shield to the front of the door.

A 30 is gonna be a monster sitting in that space. Make you up a cardboard box 31 inches deep by 24 inches wide by 28 inches high and sit it on that hearth and see what will be working with.

Thanks for the dimensions! Here's a piece of cardboard 31" x 24" centered on the chimney. I'm not sure how far back to go but here it's 3".

Thanks
Chris

 

[BrotherBart]

Looks like it should work. Having the extra tile in front is good. The 30 tosses a bunch of radiant heat downward through the glass. Mine is up on a six inch raised hearth and I still have to have something on top of the carpet in front of it.

 

[Northwind]

Thanks Bart! After looking at the manual online, it looks like I should be good. If I read it right, it's 8" min to carpet on the sides and 16" to carpet in front.

Chris

 

[BrotherBart]

Realize that it is going to get damned hot in that room. The 30 throws a ton of heat for a space that small. You ain't gonna be playing any air hockey when it is cranking. :coolsmirk:

 

[BrotherBart]

Thanks Bart! After looking at the manual online, it looks like I should be good. If I read it right, it's 8" min to carpet on the sides and 16" to carpet in front.

Chris

Be that as it may, three feet in front of mine when it is cranking the carpet is hot to the touch. That is why a stove board sits on top of that carpet all winter long.

 

[Northwind]

LOL... What's wrong with naked air hockey? The air hockey table is going as I'm putting a door there going directly to the wood on the unfinished side. I've been using the door on the other end but end up bringing all the wood across the carpet plus it a longer haul.

 

[Northwind]

Thanks Bart! After looking at the manual online, it looks like I should be good. If I read it right, it's 8" min to carpet on the sides and 16" to carpet in front.

Chris

Be that as it may, three feet in front of mine when it is cranking the carpet is hot to the touch. That is why a stove board sits on top of that carpet all winter long.

3', wow! I probably will add some tile them. It wouldn't hurt anyway. Thanks again for the info!

Chris

 

[BrotherBart]

Wait till the stove is in and see how it does. No need to do something you don't have to.

 

[Jags]

LOL... What's wrong with naked air hockey?

Ohhh...thanks for that image. Its even too early in the morning for me to start drinking that out of my head. :sick:

That room is gonna get REAL hot with a 3.5 cu ft stove simmering away at 550-650F.

 

[Northwind]

i have similar setup ,not with 30nc, & dare say the chimney behind stove will get super hot. how it affects the paint,block, & mortar should be considered. distance to wood behind chimney also. i taped some al foil on my chimney & it made quite a diff.

Thanks for the input! I don't think I'll be putting it that close to the chimney. I'll be getting the stove in a few weeks so that will give me some time to move it around and get a better idea on what needs to be changed if anything.

The room is about 600 sq. ft. and we really don't use it in the winter except to feed the stove. There is a ceiling fan and window in there too so that helps. There will also be another door going to the unfinished side before the burning starts so that should help. There's another door on the unfinished side leading up to the garage and two more windows.

Thanks again
Chris

 

[karri0n]

You use this stove to heat a significant portion of the house now?

 

[Northwind]

You use this stove to heat a significant portion of the house now?

Yeah, the wonderwood will keep the upstairs between 72-76 in the kitchen and living room (the stairwell comes up into the kitchen) and cooler but still around 70 on the other end where the bedrooms are which works out good. I try to keep it running around 400-450 deg.

 

[karri0n]

That 30 may well cook you into the bedrooms! You'll be really happy with the wood savings and heat difference.

 

[EatenByLimestone]

What kind of burn time do you get with the 30-NC? A 3.5 cu ft box should give you quite a bit of time.



Matt

 

[BrotherBart]

First year I had it when I was "stuffing for success" I had one night where the blower was still going, stove top around 150 and coals left after 15 hours when I overslept. Anymore I just feed it three monster splits and the house is warm when I get up the next morning.

 

[BrotherBart]

You use this stove to heat a significant portion of the house now?

Yeah, the wonderwood will keep the upstairs between 72-76 in the kitchen and living room (the stairwell comes up into the kitchen) and cooler but still around 70 on the other end where the bedrooms are which works out good. I try to keep it running around 400-450 deg.

aesop fable= dog walking across bridge,with bone in mouth looked down at the water where he saw another dog looking back with bone in mouth & went for the other dog's bone & thereby losing his own

This is scary. I actually understand what Pook is trying to say and it makes some sense. Heaven help me. :ahhh:

 

[myzamboni]

No worries BB, it's just beer season

 

[Northwind]

You use this stove to heat a significant portion of the house now?

Yeah, the wonderwood will keep the upstairs between 72-76 in the kitchen and living room (the stairwell comes up into the kitchen) and cooler but still around 70 on the other end where the bedrooms are which works out good. I try to keep it running around 400-450 deg.

aesop fable= dog walking across bridge,with bone in mouth looked down at the water where he saw another dog looking back with bone in mouth & went for the other dog's bone & thereby losing his own

LOL... I realize that it works fine the way it is, but I'm looking for longer burn times and less wood consumption! Plus getting some cash back with the tax credit this year. With the long winters we have here, it's nice being able to get up in the am and not having to build a fire but just stoke it and feed it.