30NC Questions

[Mike M.]

Hi All:

Working on a 30 NC in my basement. I used all double wall pipe for connections. Wondering what the stove clearance above the unit is? I have 66 inches to the ceiling and only 53 inches to the main support beam of the basement. See picture. Thoughts?

 

[Osagebndr]

Not sure what it calls for but go with manufacturers suggestions on that. Sure someone here will chime in shortly as the 30 nc has a following here. Looks as if your basement is insulated, they can be a heat sink if not well insulated tho. Im assuming you used atleast dbl wall insulated ss pipe thru the house and out ?

 

[Mike M.]

Yes the class A pipe was installed by a contractor, roughly 30 feet.. The basement walls have 2in foam on the outside, no foam on the inside...yet. We do plan to finish the basement at some point.

 

[Grisu]

I cannot find it in the manual either. Default is usually 84" from the floor (see your local code) which you may just fall short a bit as the beam would be about 83" from the floor. You could ask Englander if installing a heat shield would reduce the minimum clearance.

Another potential problem: Double-wall pipe clearance to combustibles is 6". Do you have that between the beams and before the pipe enters the ceiling support box?

 

[Mike M.]

Yes the beam is 83in from the floor but it is not directly above the stove. It is about 10in behind the back of the air shield. The back of the unit does say the 84in for alcove installs but that is not my application. Yes the double wall is 7in from the beam when entering the support box. The double wall is 10in under the beam when it passes by horizontally.

 

[chance04]

At the be minimum your pipes shouldn't freeze

 

[Grisu]

If the beam is not directly over the stove you should be fine as the joists seem higher up. Sorry of I was not quite clear in my previous post but even when the pipe clears the beam with enough space what is with the floor joists? It looks like they are pretty closely spaced, maybe 16"? You won't fit a 6" double-wall through there and have 6" clearance each side.

 

[Mike M.]

The class A pipe extents below the floor joists. Any ideas to protect the beam anyway? Sheet metal?

 

[Swedishchef]

Yes, sheet metal. But you need to attach it to spacers and not directly on the wood.

Nice clean walls. I love that! I also love the spray foam on the crown. I sprayfoamed my entire basement walls.

Andrew

 

[begreen]

By the description of the flue setup I wouldn't worry about it unless call on by an inspector. It's unlikely there will be any heat issue from the stove with the beam. You can measure the temp with an IR thermometer this winter. If it stays below 150F at peak temp it's fine. However, it you want to address it, a simple sheet metal "L", put on 1" spacers so that there is an air gap behind it will amply protect the beam.

 

[Osagebndr]

Sounds like a good install . Hope you enjoy the stove

 

[Mountaineer]

I would say you're fine. Looks about the same distance to the joists as my nc30 is in my basement

 

[Mike M.]

Thanks to all for the reply's. I don't have an IR thermometer but can bring home a Flir from work this winter to double check the beam temp. Insurance signed off on the install today. Happy burning to all, sounds like it could be fall weekend number 1 of Wisconsin wood burning weather.

 

[begreen]

Open the windows for the first real firing of the stove. It's going to stink for a bit until the paint is baked in.