Anyone ever vented this way?

[pourlepayssauvage]

I will be installing a second pellet stove before next winter -- it's in a location where I can vent straight out (see pic) Has anyone ever vented this way? Pro's and cons? It will be on the lee side of the house and we rarely lose power. Opinions on if it's ok to install without a cleanout T as shown??

 

[heat seeker]

That is how mine is vented. So easy to clean, no "T" needed. The only drawback I see is if you change stoves, the hole in the wall may not line up to a new stove.

I strongly recommend an OAK, which will reduce any smoke at power failure. We have had a couple of outages, and little smoke gets in the house.

I used to use a brush to clean the venting, but tried it with just the leaf blower - no brush needed!

Be aware that really crappy pellets may leave some staining on the siding. Went for years with no problem, then burned some bad pellets and got a bit of staining that will probably weather off (I hope).

 

[pourlepayssauvage]

That is how mine is vented. So easy to clean, no "T" needed. The only drawback I see is if you change stoves, the hole in the wall may not line up to a new stove.

I strongly recommend an OAK, which will reduce any smoke at power failure. We have had a couple of outages, and little smoke gets in the house.

I used to use a brush to clean the venting, but tried it with just the leaf blower - no brush needed!

Be aware that really crappy pellets may leave some staining on the siding. Went for years with no problem, then burned some bad pellets and got a bit of staining that will probably weather off (I hope).

Thanks! - good to know -- do you ever get live fly ash (sparks) coming out of it since it's relatively short? That was one of my worries too -

 

[heat seeker]

I've never looked, but it's possible. When there's snow down, it's no problem. I should clean out the area under the vent in the fall, since there is some dead vegetation there.

I could invest in a spark bucket, too.

 

[DrewAtFPS775]

That install is not a bad way to go if you need to save space.
I would recommend using the tee if possible, but this way is perfectly acceptable, you just want to make sure that where you are venting it is not the side of the house where there is a heavy wind to prevent any direct winds possibly obstructing your draft.

 

[chken]

Your termination should be at least a foot from the wall. Are there any other openings near the termination, a window? a door?

Also, you should put it on a UPS to prevent smoke backing into the house with an outage.

 

[heat seeker]

My vent is on the windward side, and we get a lot of strong winds. The OAK nullifies all that, never a problem even with strong winds. YMMV.

 

[DneprDave]

My garage pellet stove is vented that way. The vent pipe sticks 18" out of the side of the garage and has a stainless cap that directs the exhaust almost straight down.

Such a short run doesn't need a cleanout tee. I use the leaf blower to clean the stove and short vent. I haven't had any smoke come out of the stove when is gets shut down abruptly. I haven't ever seen sparks from the vent.

Dave

 

[Pelleting In NJ]

Mine is vented this way, no clean-out T. Mine extends about 4 feet from the side of the house, to prevent any staining of my light colored siding. Once in a while I see sparks come out the end vent-cap. I use a UPS to prevent smoke in the house if the power fails, and I also added an auger fuel feed interrupt (disconnects the auger feed motor if the power fails) so that the stove shuts down before the UPS battery is depleted.

 

[UMainah]

It will also depend on what kind of stove you get. For example Englander's require a 3' rise. Be sure to check the manual.

 

[St_Earl]

i've read that even with that "direct vent" method, you will still want a slight up angle on the pipe.

 

[SidecarFlip]

i've read that even with that "direct vent" method, you will still want a slight up angle on the pipe.

Huh?

 

[hossthehermit]

Thanks! - good to know -- do you ever get live fly ash (sparks) coming out of it since it's relatively short? That was one of my worries too -

If it's short, you may want to add a spark bucket, and make sure that any bush in the area is kept well trimmed .................

 

[Jason845845]

I vent mine that way, but I had to make an offset with 45's to match up to the old hole. No Oak, no problems, very easy to clean. The only problem with this setup is that if you lose power, there is no natural draft and you may get smoke in the house. I bought a Ups that puts my stove into shut down mode and takes care of this.

 

[HP52NOVA]

I would add a UPS, or surefire setup, as well as an OAK. if you are adding an OAK, make sure to not place it too close to the termination point... Short is always good, but you also want to think about your siding as this type of termination can/will soot up your siding. I have seen some people go up vertically to avoid that with good results. if you do go up (I think its a 5 Ft min), make sue to clear your rafters and siding - don't want soot in your attic via the soffits. Going up will also allow you have the OAK right outside without worrying of sucking in exhaust gases from a nearby termination. I would have done a vertical run, but in my case I have to deal with 6 foot horizontal run, and I end up cleaning my siding all the time. maybe you can avoid that.

 

[heat seeker]

Huh?

It's been said that a slight rise is necessary to get the proper airflow. I'm not so sure, but however mine is installed, it works fine.

 

[bags]

Great way to go. Least expensive and easiest to clean and maintain. KISS Keep It Simple Stupid. Be sure to follow the stove owner's manual for proper placement and clearances.

 

[Bioburner]

Some stoves will be fine with that install. Have an Ecoteck and it seems fine in a power outage and its tall design naturally draws the smoke out. Won't work at all for a Bixby. Get a download of the manual of your new stove or tell us what stove your intending on getting and see if others have had luck with the simple venting your proposing.

 

[Dr.Faustus]

If it's short, you may want to add a spark bucket, and make sure that any bush in the area is kept well trimmed .................

+1 on this. Every stove should have a spark bucket. Definitely keep the bush trimmed. Dont want it to catch fire. I recommend removing the bush entirely.

 

[ohbix]

My experience w/ the Bixby and the enviro M55 - straight out exhaust, both w/ OAK, both no smoke in the house when suddenly shut down due to power loss.

 

[moyerdm]

My stove is vented straight out. Occasionally I will get a spark, but rarely. My pipe is two feet from the back of the stove to the outside termination. My termination is nine inches off the wall, fire Marshal made that change. Ash does lay in the pipe, but not to bad.

 

[Bioburner]

My experience w/ the Bixby and the enviro M55 - straight out exhaust, both w/ OAK, both no smoke in the house when suddenly shut down due to power loss.

You using the Bixby-Selirk style pipe that includes the fresh air intake?

 

[rona]

I would say pellets will smolder a long time after the power goes out versus if you are burning corn it goes out quickly and is less of a issue. I use the pipe in a pipe system for one stove and a separate pipe for both the exh and fresh air in another stove. I did get smoke smell once but blamed it on burning pellets that were dumped into the ash bucket during a "hot dump". We had power go out a couple of times and if we were burning corn there was no issue but found when burning pellets I had smoldering and smoke but after the first time I keep a squirt bottle of water handy and can get rid of that smolder problem real fast. We have a very good reliable power system and very rarely have a outage maybe once a year.

 

[Snowy Rivers]

Our two whits are straight out the wall.
No problemo

 

[ohbix]

the Bixby has the Bixby pipe (like Selkirk dt-m); the m55 has the oak separate from the vent. Selkirk extends too far from the wall for the m55...