Anyone Know If The New Woodstock Has A Thermostat?
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I'm guessing 'no' since it has not been mentioned in any of their updates. But, they haven't even included the stove on their website and no manual is available.
Well, that would be too bad if they decided against it. Sure would be a nice option to extend the burn.
Todd said:
I don't know if they decided against it, but I am pretty sure they are shipping without them at this point.
There was mention a few months ago of a couple of systems they're looking at: a thermocouple-controlled intake damper or an O2 sensor controlling a blower on the secondary intake. Sounded like it's still in R&D.
Backwoods Savage said:
Will it be integrated into the model or will existing stove owners be able to install it as an option? Is it just for the PH or is it going to be available for all models?
The plan is for existing owners to be able to install it. Initially the PH but there is talk about making this available for other models. I think the PH will be the big test to see how well it works and how well owners take to it.
If it requires electricity other than long lasting batteries, I will be much less interested. I subscribe to the KISS theory, and anything much more complicated than a simple bimetalic spring or simple theromocouple is getting complicated. It will be interesting to see what they come up with.
Hi Ray:
I hope it is a spring. My old VC Resolute had one, and so does the choke in my '83 Chevy Pickup, both are still working.
I hope it is a spring. My old VC Resolute had one, and so does the choke in my '83 Chevy Pickup, both are still working.
I am also hoping to see a thermostatic damper control available as a retrofit, and fast! I'd say 80% of the effort I spend on running my Fireview is just going up and down the stairs fine-tuning the air after loading. No reason I can think of why the stove shouldn't be equipped to regulate that by itself.
I'd strongly bet they will in fact use some sort of bimetallic spring mechanism. Just as that old Resolute did, all modern VC, and all Blaze Kings still do. Its simple and it works.
I don't see what you could do with a thermocouple unless you are going with some sort of active electrically powered mechanism, as all the thermocouple gives you is a very small voltage that varies with temperature. The O2 sensor idea is interesting.... I could see something like that improving the efficiency as you would ensure there was enough air to burn all the smoke, but I cant figure if it would give you any better control of the burn temp.
Im going to side with the KISS camp on this one as well.
I don't see what you could do with a thermocouple unless you are going with some sort of active electrically powered mechanism, as all the thermocouple gives you is a very small voltage that varies with temperature. The O2 sensor idea is interesting.... I could see something like that improving the efficiency as you would ensure there was enough air to burn all the smoke, but I cant figure if it would give you any better control of the burn temp.
Im going to side with the KISS camp on this one as well.
pickaname said:
Something is drastically wrong here if you spend so much effort fine-tuning this stove. Perhaps it is the fuel though because if it is not dry, it is more difficult to run any stove. With our Fireview, we usually engage the cat around 5 minutes after the reload and turn the draft down to maybe between 1 and 2. Then usually another 5 minutes and we set the draft to about .75 and all is well. During a normal winter (which this in not) we will open the draft fully just before the wood gets to the all coal stage as this will help to burn down the coals.
To put a thermostat on the PH would require a redesign of the intake butterfly(complete shutdown of secondary air) and air injection before the cat. Without air injection the cat would stall with secondary air completely closed off. I have found that on my stove, most of the time the butterfly is completely closed, the only time the air is open is during startup/reload. A thermostat would only be usefull is you needed massive amounts of heat, in that case a full load of wood would only last four hours.
Wow! Someone once posted they were burning through a full load in 6 to 7 hours in the Progress and I thought that was crazy. I just can't imagine burning through that much wood in 4 hours without having a very overly hot stove. That would be some serious heat!
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