Ash question

Dabug Posted By Dabug, Jul 12, 2019 at 5:38 PM

  1. jerrieric

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    I knew both would be the answer when I asked the question. I actually think it's more of their binders. I don't think they make pellets out of pine
     
  2. Dataman

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  3. Highbeam

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    We burn lots of Doug fir in our wood stoves too. Same thing, almost no ash or emptying ash for several months of 24/7 burning.
     
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  4. johneh

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    No binders are used . Heat from the compression of wood fibers force lignin out naturally bonds the saw dust
    so in a wood pellet is nothing but wood . . The higher the compression the better the pellet (hotter less ash)
     
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  5. jerrieric

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    We don't burn pine in Maine because it produces too much creosote at least in wood stoves and fireplaces.
     
  6. johneh

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    Old School moisture content in the wood is what causes Creosote
    More moister slower burning more smoke = Creosote
    Not soft wood ( pine aspen etc)
     
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  7. blades

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    Pine beats the heck out of cotton wood or willow and a couple others
     
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  8. Highbeam

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    It’s almost all exactly the same btu lb for lb. the evergreens get a slight edge from the higher oil content.
     
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  9. jackhammer

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    When I had my Harman stove professionally installed, I was told to empty the ash pan once a week. The pan is large and has little ash in it after only one week, depending on what kind of pellets and how much it runs. I’m sure there is truth to your statement about fly ash etc, but most Harman stoves are a breeze to clean. If I’m using a good pellet burning 24/7, I’ll scrape the burn pot 2-3 times a week and vacuum and empty the ash pan every other week. I am by no means an expert, but every stove, pellet, house, temperature etc. is different. To empty your ash pan once a week is not much to do, but to each their own.
     
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  10. jerrieric

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    I never have to scrape my burn pot except when I am TV ask me again once a week. And there's usually nothing to scrape out of the burn pot but I do it anyway
     
  11. Overfireinthehole

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    On good pellets that is true but I know of one that adds a little wax to bind them and I’ve heard of smaller plants using vegetable oil.
     
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  12. johneh

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    Small batch or Horse Pellets
    Not for burning . But people do burn them
    I would not burn them but I am a pellet snob and use the cleanest hottest pellets I can find
     
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  13. Tonyray

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    same here.. a softwood snob.. prefer doug firs and the zilch ash..
    don't mind spending a bit more since it is a product that lasts far into winter and not "Gone" overnight like a 100.00 meal or ticket to a sports event...lol
     
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  14. Overfireinthehole

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    Relatively small batches. My company carries all oak pellets (mostly white oak) and some of them are extremely clean, but it’s very rare that any distributors within 100 miles of here Cary any softwood pellets simply because it’s cost prohibitive to import them this far away from any areas that process a lot of softwood. It’s actually funny, people in our area who have been around pellets since the 80s all swear that hardwood pellets are the only way to go, and softwoods are junk. The main determination of how hot a pellet burns in my opinion is just how clean your sawdust is and what your pelletized moisture content ends at. Everyone has an opinion on that though. The Harman instructor at the plant in Minessota tried telling us softwoods were better than oak and showed us a burning unit with their idea of a Grade A pellet and we about died laughing at how filthy they were burning, but that was probably just a bad batch.
     
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  15. bholler

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    Not true at all
     
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  16. jerrieric

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    Everybody I know that friends with refuses to burn pine. Maybe Pinewood work until it's what is full of sap and water and unless you really dry it out it's going to be a mess
     
  17. bholler

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    It is absolutely no different than any other wood when it comes to creosote production. In fact it dries much faster than hardwoods so it can burn well with less creosote faster than those other woods
     
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  18. johneh

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    Any wet wood does this
    Pine is fine like any wood as long as it is DRY
     
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  19. Overfireinthehole

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    What I think 990B3E31-70FC-4BC7-822E-AE4B70D6595E.jpeg when someone says they don’t empty their ash pan.
     
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  20. Tonyray

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    Agreed!!
     
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