Hey everyone, over the weekend I installed a new to me Englander pdvc that I got from AMFM energy. Thanks to all of the excellent info posted by all of you I had zero reservations about buying a refurbished stove, I feel that I will have much better luck this time around, and I like knowing that there's some pretty good support for Englander owners here. My previous experience with the Country Flame was not good. Poor tech support, they kept blaming the pellets I was burning. I tried 10 different brands, all brands that I researched on here and found positive reviews, After a number of problems I pulled the stove and vowed to never own another pellet stove. Recently I started saving up for a wood stove. Well, I only got about half of what I needed for the stove...I would have still needed money for about 20ft of class a chimney pipe. My wife suggested another pellet stove because we still had the chimney and she was always freezing. Well, after finding out about AMFM energy on here, and a $450 oil bill for about 6 weeks running from middle of November - end of December I pulled the trigger on another pellet stove. Way I see it I still may be able to break even with the money I will save on oil this winter and even if I don't I know I'll be a hell of a lot warmer. I expect to be able to heat my whole house, the other stove did... when it worked. Anyway, I rambling. Thanks to everyone for posting about your experiences and keep them coming. Here's a shot of the stove on a temporary hearth pad. I plan to finish it off in the summer.