Anyone have a good place to buy Rutland's glass conditioner and cleaner? My local shop has it for $7.98 for 8 ounces which seems awful expensive. I've tried cheaper knock-off products but I got to say Rutland's sure has the best product. My Napoleon zero clearance fireplace glass doors usually need to be cleaned each morning or by the end of the day you can't see the fire.
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I believe Home Depot carries it. CALL first. Sometimes it is worth the wait on the phone.
I personally use "Soot Out" (liquid spray)( Lowes?) to clean my glass made by the company who makes The CSL. The price seems about right if you live in NJ too. Price of gas usually determines how much WE pay for a product.
I personally use "Soot Out" (liquid spray)( Lowes?) to clean my glass made by the company who makes The CSL. The price seems about right if you live in NJ too. Price of gas usually determines how much WE pay for a product.
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I checked Home Depot and Lowes. No luck. Only the local woodstove store carries it. TrueValue sells it online by the case but the price is the same. I've tried spays but the soot is so thick that a paste works the best. Thank you.
I checked Home Depot and Lowes. No luck. Only the local woodstove store carries it. TrueValue sells it online by the case but the price is the same. I've tried spays but the soot is so thick that a paste works the best. Thank you.
banger said:
Is this the stuff you're talking about? I think I paid 10 or 12 bucks at a local place in Maine but this price seems pretty fair.
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I've found that vinegar and hot water does a great job of cutting the crud on the glass. Mine usually stays pretty clean, with the exception of the lower corners of the side windows (they get quite black after a few days). If I apply the vinegar and water liberally and try to keep it wet for a couple of minutes it does the trick quite well. The rest of the glass wipes clean with no trouble.
I use the glass stove top cleaner my wife uses in the kitchen, works pretty good. But may I suggest that you burn a little hotter and it burns right off. Sounds like either your wood is a little to green or your dampering it down to much.
Try Sutherlands Lumber Co. if you have one near. Really though that price is not out of line. Many people simply use damp newspaper and ash which works fairly well and is cheap as it gets.
Problem with the Napoleon NZ6000 high country zero clearance fireplace is that the firebox is huge! I can and often put in unsplit 12 inch rounds. It has the largest firebox which is great but really hard to get the box heated up so hot that it keeps the glass clean. Any spray cleaner or vineager and water just doesn't do it. Wet ashes and newspaper does work with a lot of elbow grease but I found the Rutland's glass cleaner and conditioner works best. It's like a "softscrub" for glass. It takes the crud off with the least amount of elbow grease. THanks for all the suggestions though.
I paid $6.39 for an 8oz bottle of Rutland glass cleaner last year at my local hardware store. At the rate I'm using it I guess it will last about 5 years. Granted I'm only doing a stove sized piece of glass and only once a week (if that) but a couple drops on a damp paper towel goes a long way with this stuff.
My Napoleon has 2 glass doors each about 12"x16". cleaning them once every moring I usually use about one bottle a month.
I use a Mr. Clean magic eraser...it works GREAT cutting through the nasty film of crud and then a dry paper towel to shine the glass. Erasers are only about 3 dollars for 2 pads and they will last a LONG time if you only clean the ceramic glass. It really does work great on the glass though.
I use water and maybe a little windex. It has never failed to take off whatever little soot I have on the glass.
Be careful with some of these soot removal glass cleaners, they will discolor your stove paint if allowed to sit.
-- Mike
Be careful with some of these soot removal glass cleaners, they will discolor your stove paint if allowed to sit.
-- Mike
Neptune Hd has about 12 bottles @ $5.00/per. How far south are you? Saw them there yesterday. PM me your HD location asap or on here and I will let you know later tonight if they really don't have it or if another store has any or if they missed it. I do know , that Rutland products are "out of season" and we will not be recieving anymore. Yeah I work there PT.
Paper towel and ash doesn't even begin to help. I ran out of the Rutland's and had to revert to the old paper towel and ash method. Took 40 minutes and much elbow grease to get it off. Ended up finally with clean glass and very dirty fingernails. Should have put on my rubber gloves. Thanks.
cstrail said:
Thanks for the tip. I'll give the eraser a try. Hopefully after the cleaning the eraser can then be dipped in water and rung-out because it will be very black with soot.
I've been using the Rutland product for years and think it's great. Not only does it take the soot off easily, it leaves a silicon coating on the glass to make sure that the next cleanup is easy. It's not cheap, but it's worth it!
banger said:
Yes, but there's a "catch": take a dripping wet paper towel, dip in ashes and rub all over the glass and add ash until it is somewhat pasty but still liquid and won't dry out on it's own. Wait 1 minute and then take that same wet paper towel and begin to scrub the creosote off the glass. The key is to get it into a somewhat liquid form so that it can "go into solution" and attack the stains on the glass but pasty enough that it won't run off and then to again use that same wet towel to remove the stains. Follow with a dryer/moist paper towel to clean off the glass. Costs zero..........
I've done that and yes it works, but I'd rather "pay the nickel" and get it done in 2 minutes rather than the 20minutes and mess it makes with the ashes. Thanks!
OK, maybe my door never gets that dirty, Or I have some super-duper ash... but it really only takes me aminute or 2. I'm sure you tried it and it was a PIA for you. I'm just cuious why our experience is so different???
Well I'm guessing my ZC fireplace is much different than your woodburning stove/insert? Because the firebox is so big it is very hard to get the temp way up there. It would require a lot of wood to really get it very hot so soot does accumulate quicker. I have friends with smaller stoves and their glass stays cleaner with hotter fires. Also I don't know if your glass is as large as my Napoleon. 2 doors each 16" by 20" (I'm guessing as I'm on the road right now) so there is a lot of surface there. Appreciate the tips!
banger said:
I pay zero and get it done in 2 minutes. Where's the 20 minutes coming from? Edit: just saw your other post....large glass and doesn't get hot enough but still, with a really wet rag, you can rub wet ashes all over both glasses in 30 seconds....then wait 1 min and rub it off...ok....maybe 4 min tops.
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