Blazeking or Pacific Energy - 1st time buyer

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Fargo

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Jan 18, 2016
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North Dakota
Once again, I'm looking at purchasing a woodstove to install into my house. (I started looking a year ago but haven't done anything yet.) I'm really struggling between the benefits and drawbacks between the BK Ashford 30.2 and PE Alderlea T6. I have zero experience with woodstoves so everything I know has come from reading this forum. From reading this forum I have pretty much deduced that the Blazeking is the best cat stove and Pacific Energy is the best non-cat stove. So thats what brought me to these 2 options. My local dealers don't typically carry either stove, but I have found a dealer that can order either one for me. I don't have final quotes yet, but the dealer said the price difference between the 2 stoves is within a couple hundred dollars. That is before the current government rebate of $2000+/- (that I believe would only be available on the Ashford). So practically speaking the Blazeking is $2000 cheaper after the tax credit. (Assuming I meet all the requirements). But more important than price, I feel like I need to find the right stove for my needs.

The stove will be in a finished basement with a walk out patio door in the same room as the stove. The size of the house is 1700 sq ft 1 story house. So 1700 sq ft in the basement and 1700sq ft on the main level. So 3400 sq ft total. I'm hoping the heat will draft up a semi open stairwell to the upper level. If not I have a force air furnace I can use to circulate heat. Since I'm in a basement I expect my chimey stack will be around 22'-26'. (I haven't done the math to get exact estimates. I'll leave that to the installer). It will be a strait pipe through an upstairs closet. So mostly internal chimney up through the attic. I am a little bit on a side slope if that matters. But its a gentle slope and I'm not at the bottom of the hill

Since I have a pretty effecient electric force air furnace with a heatpump, I expect to only use the stove during the coldest 4 months. So I don't think I need the low and slow heat of the Blazeking. I expect once I fire it up, I will be able to run it at more moderate temps to supplement the furnace. Although I do hope to be able to get 9-10 hour burns over night so I can easily start the stove again in the morning.

What really draws me to the Blazeking is the thermostat. I see that as a huge saftey factor in allowing me to run the stove overnight and not worry about the stove running away from me while I sleep. The drawbacks I see, (apart from mild concerns about the Ashford smell issues) are the additional hassel, maintenance, and cost of cleaning and replacing the cat. And although, I wouldn't consider myself a 'prepper', I do take into consideration the longevity and reliability of the product, So I also, have some concerns about future availabiltity of a replacement cat if I ever needed something on short notice during an extended power outage. (We have had periods of being without power for a week in the past few years). Or if supply chains get all messed up again. So the cat free T6 just seems like it would be a longer lasting, more durable and reliable product to me. But then again, I might just keep a couple spare cats on hand to solve the problem. But its still sounds like more maintenance and complications than cat free.

The appeal of the Pacific Energy T6 is primarily the simple maintenance, and expected durability and reliability of a cat free stove. I also really like the ability to cook on the stove. This would be very helpful if we get another event where we are without power for a week. My concern with the T6 is I hear they breath very well and I am concerned it could run away from me at night. My other concern is also if I will be able to get a long enough burn over night for the stove to be running the secondary burn all night to be efficient and still have coals to start a new fire 9-10 hours later in the morning.

Since I am in a rural property in North Dakota, my primary wood source will be Boxelder trees that I have to constantly be clearing and cleaning up around my yard. So I might as well heat with them. However, since my wood is not great, and I expect I won't be very diligent at getting my wood seasoned property, that adds to the appeal of the T6. I understand cats do not handle unseasoned wood very well.

So, sorry for the long explanation. With all of that info. Which stove do you guys think will best meet my needs.

TLDR: I'm torn between the safety of the thermostat and the long over night burns on the BlazeKing Ashford 30.2 vs the simplicity, durability, and less maintenance of the cat free Pacific Energy Alderlea T6. The stove will be used for supplemental heating in the coldest 4 months of the year, along with emergency heat and cooking when the power goes out. As well as some time just enjoying the fire show for an evening. My wood will be boxelder and I am not sure I'll get the hang of proper seasoning.

Additional info; My basement is insulated, but not currently finished. But I'm considering the stove now to take advantage of the tax rebate. So getting the Ashford means additional work of disconnecting the stove to finish the basement then reconnecting again.
 
I can only speak from running the T6, but it is definitely a less complex stove with lower maintenance costs. The only runaways we have had, are when I have spaced out turning down the air. That is about 4 times in the past 16 yrs. The stove responded well once the air control was closed. A remote wireless thermometer system with an alarm cured that issue. If the cat stove is going to be only used on the colder days, then the burn times get closer.

That said, both are good stoves and will get the job done, assuming there is a good convection path and the basement is well insulated. Regardless of stove choice, the firewood must be properly seasoned to get good results from the stove. If the box elder was cut/split/stacked this year, it's likely not ready to burn. Note that the stove needs to be installed by 12/31/25 to get the credit.
 
Good idea to have an alarm. Does your T6 require much adjustment through out the day to keep it running at the correct temperature? Since the T6 doesn't have a thermostat, how often do you need to adjust the air control?
 
No, it's pretty predictable. Most of the adjustment is done in the first 30 minutes of operation. Once it's cruising it can go 10-12 hrs. on a full load in above freezing weather and about 8 hrs when I push it harder in sub-freezing temps. I might open up the air a little during the last hour to burn the coals down more. Our house is an old farm house with too much glazing so not the best for holding heat.
 
This is not that untypical. A big Drolet, Osburn, Liberty, etc. will run about the same.
 
So, if I am understanding things correctly, it seems whether I get a Blazeking or a PE, I'll be watching the unit for the first half hour or so and after that I should be able to turn it down and let it go.

I'm just watching videos now of the 2 stoves trying to get a feel for each unit. Both seem really nice with pros and cons. The PEs really have a nice fire show from what I've seen. But I do see a number of videos with issues of over fireing. So its still a concern, but it seems like there are solutions.
 
I have a couple of cat stoves. I need a backup stove since we have no backup heat except for a couple of oil-filled radiant heaters (small house.) I'm thinking of getting a secondary-burn stove and getting rid of a cat stove. I got an Alderlea T5 for my SIL several years back, and I'd go PE, except for that the stove needs to rear-vent into a masonry fireplace chimney.
I like the simple construction of the PEs, the low maintenance cost, the "floating firebox" etc, so in your shoes I'd go PE, without a doubt. Seems like a solid long-term investment to me.
 
I run my T5 more or less the same when it’s 35 or -20. I run it turned down. When it’s real cold it drafts harder. More air is pulled in. The fuel burns faster. I get more heat.

I also vary load size to give me more control over the heat output. I have a key damper on mine as a last form of draft/temp control.

Every stove operates differently. You’ll figure out how to run whichever stove you choose the best for your specific setup. No 2 loads are the same. Each load has a different amount of fuel in it, the fuel has a different moisture content, the wind changes, you end up turning the stove down faster/slower, the barometer is different… it’s a dance.

But if you run it the same each time, you start to rule out variables. You can make small changes and get the results you want without much effort or thought put in. This is key if you have to reload at 3am while half asleep and don’t want to burn your forearm on the door.
 
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