Buying a chimney Liner

[ozarkjeep]

ok I can get flex single wall stainless for $18 a foot local.

48" rigid stainless for $80

or an entire kit on ebay, for $310 (shipped)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Chimney-Liner-K...DVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item180045789399

is there anything wrong with this ebay kit?

I like that the cap and suck is included
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any input?

Id like to get this installed this week!

catalytic wood insert ( lennox-Earth Stove bv4000c, if it makes any difference)

 

[Mike Wilson]

There is nothing wrong with this kit, it is the same 316Ti that your chimney guy would install, only he'd charge you a grand for the privilege. I have installed the exact same liner myself, good quality, works well.

-- Mike

 

[BrotherBart]

"is there anything wrong with this ebay kit?"

Bought both of mine off of eBay and they are great. Different vendor.

"I like that the cap and suck is included"

I am ordering one today. I don't need one but the "extra" that you say comes with it sounds great to me.

 

[ozarkjeep]

There is nothing wrong with this kit, it is the same 316Ti that your chimney guy would install, only he'd charge you a grand for the privilege. I have installed the exact same liner myself, good quality, works well.

-- Mike

what was the shipping time ?

Id order today, if I thought it would be here this week,.

I mispelled such, in the first post, but for some reason, its funny, so im leaving it.

Ill go home and measure, IM not sure if I need 20 or 25 feet.

here is another 25' kit, its $13/foot, the 20' kit is $15 a foot.

http://cgi.ebay.com/6-X-25-SS-FLEXI...DVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item300045369117

thanks for the input guys!

 

[Mike Wilson]

I forget how long it took us to get it delivered... wasn't a week though. Showed up in a large cardboard box, and was saran wrapped together. Measure what you need, get an extra foot or so, and then buy it.

-- Mike

 

[joshuaviktor]

I got a 6x30, and a 6x40 with chimney caps, 2 piece t's, top plates, all included, for 1000. Off ebay. Came saran wrapped, like mike said. I actually just finished installing the 40 footer. I'll put picture up this week, and I hope to burn tonight. Crossing fingers. IT's been a year of collecting stoves, chimneys, etc. Argh.

 

[BrotherBart]

Both of mine arrived in two days. From two different vendors.

 

[ozarkjeep]

Cool, I just bought one, and paid $315 total shipped for 6"x20
I hope it gets here in 2 days, Ill be warm this week!

I went home and measured at lunch, I also noticed I have a clay lining inside my chimney.

Now if I figure out how to remove the damper from the old masonry fireplace.

any ideas on that one?

 

[Eric Johnson]

I'm guessing if you go for the "suck" option, it improves your draft.

 

[ozarkjeep]

I'm guessing if you go for the "suck" option, it improves your draft.

Id need a second job to continually pay for that option.

 

[BrotherBart]

Cool, I just bought one, and paid $315 total shipped for 6"x20
I hope it gets here in 2 days, Ill be warm this week!

I went home and measured at lunch, I also noticed I have a clay lining inside my chimney.

Now if I figure out how to remove the damper from the old masonry fireplace.

any ideas on that one?

As far as the damper goes it is usually just taking out a cotter pin and taking the plate out. If the frame is too narrow for the liner to come through you can do like I did and cut the frame to let it through. I tried a Sawzall and finally just grabbed a plain old hacksaw and the frame cut out in no time. You just need to cut enough out of the middle of the frame to let the liner through the middle.

Remember that once you cut that frame it ain't never gonna be a fireplace again.

 

[BrotherBart]

I'm guessing if you go for the "suck" option, it improves your draft.

Or at the least, your outlook.

 

[Mike Wilson]

Now if I figure out how to remove the damper from the old masonry fireplace.

any ideas on that one?

I am going to bet that removing the damper won't be your problem, as noted, pull a cotter pin or 2 and she'll lift right out. The problem will be the piece of cast iron on the opposite side of the damper, where the damper control rod locks in at different heights. Mine was centered in the damper, and right in the way of the flex. I needed that puppy sawed out to get the liner to fit.

-- Mike

 

[BrotherBart]

Now if I figure out how to remove the damper from the old masonry fireplace.

any ideas on that one?

I am going to bet that removing the damper won't be your problem, as noted, pull a cotter pin or 2 and she'll lift right out. The problem will be the piece of cast iron on the opposite side of the damper, where the damper control rod locks in at different heights. Mine was centered in the damper, and right in the way of the flex. I needed that puppy sawed out to get the liner to fit.

-- Mike

Same thing with mine. I was so envious of the guys with the latch on the side. I circled around the job of cutting that damn thing out of there for twenty-one years. Finally one afternoon the Genny Lights kicked in and it was history an hour later.

Of course I had to move one little six hundred and fifty pound obstacle out of the way first.

 

[ozarkjeep]

Ill check it out tonight, post some pics, and try really hard NOT get a bunch of junk in my eye like last night.

PPE is required for me, even when not working, im clumsy and bleed alot.

I wish I had a small plasma cutter, itll be tough to get a sawzall or hack saw up there, maybe a die grinder and cut off wheel.

 

[mike141]

Could someone tell me how hard it is to put in a chimney liner. I need one for my Avalon Astoria Pellet stove and got quotes anywhere from $1600 to $830!! It is directly vented into a masonry chimney right now where a wood stove used to be vented....19ft high chimney. Thanks

 

[BrotherBart]

Ill check it out tonight, post some pics, and try really hard NOT get a bunch of junk in my eye like last night.

PPE is required for me, even when not working, im clumsy and bleed alot.

I wish I had a small plasma cutter, itll be tough to get a sawzall or hack saw up there, maybe a die grinder and cut off wheel.

Yeah. That's the ticket. Use something that will put out your eyes and set your shirt on fire! Get the hacksaw. Take it easy and take a break every few minutes. After you have cut about half way through smack it with a hammer and duck. It's cast iron. It wants to break. On second thought, duck and then hit it. And just cut out a place for the liner to come through. The rest of the frame can come in handy later right where it is.

 

[ozarkjeep]

Ive got a really funny story about catching my shirt on fire, using a plasma cutter to cut out of spec turbine engine cases up so they wouldnt be sold outside the US.

in a huge ventalator.

ever tried to put out a flannel shirt? standing in a wind tunnel?

yeah, it was comical, to EVERYONE watching.

on the INSTALL.

I hope its as easy as dropping it down from the top, screwing it to the cap, and screwing it to the collar and or blocking plate at the bottom?

does it need to be strapped along its length? like midway down the chimney?
do I need to hire a midget? or ask Santa to do it on his return trip?

 

[BrotherBart]

I hope its as easy as dropping it down from the top, screwing it to the cap, and screwing it to the collar and or blocking plate at the bottom?

It won't be. I can guarantee that.

 

[GVA]

on the INSTALL.

I hope its as easy as dropping it down from the top, screwing it to the cap, and screwing it to the collar and or blocking plate at the bottom?

does it need to be strapped along its length? like midway down the chimney?
do I need to hire a midget? or ask Santa to do it on his return trip?

You need to secure it every 16"all the way down the flue...........................................................................................................Naw I'm just messin with you. Even santa wouldn't take that job on.........Just remember that lawmaker Murphey......... His laws are still on the books on liner installs ;-P

Nothing is as easy as you think ;-)

 

[ozarkjeep]

Im sure it wont be 'EASY'

I looked, and sure enough the damper thing is in the way.

dang.

 

[biggins08]

BE carefull ordering form that guy on EBay. Make sure you specify the lenghth of flex you need. I purchased my liner from him last year and the 25 feet included the t pipe connection which I was not using.My liner was about 1 foot short. Just a heads up.

 

[BrotherBart]

BE carefull ordering form that guy on EBay. Make sure you specify the lenghth of flex you need. I purchased my liner from him last year and the 25 feet included the t pipe connection which I was not using.My liner was about 1 foot short. Just a heads up.

Which eBay seller was it? Folks here need to know this stuff. Both of mine were a couple of feet longer than spec'ed.

 

[ozarkjeep]

this is the one I bought today.

http://cgi.ebay.com/6-X-20-SS-FLEXI...ryZ20598QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I really need 18-19 feet, so if its short, Ill complain, but I wont be screwed.

 

[BrotherBart]

this is the one I bought today.

http://cgi.ebay.com/6-X-20-SS-FLEXI...ryZ20598QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I really need 18-19 feet, so if its short, Ill complain, but I wont be screwed.

Different vendor but the same liner that my second one was. Comes from a company in Canada named TCE. It'll be fine.