Econoburn Ewb 300 blower shut down using a PID CONTROLLER

[mark cline]

I want to wire in a pid controller for the blower to shut down before a different PID controller shuts down all power to boiler . Very Leary to splice into wiring that might fry my control board. This seems simple, but my PID has 120v when it’s on ( out light on) . Are there settings in the controller that would just cut power like a light a switch , like the same as disconnecting the aquastat. How has other Econoburn users done this ?

 

[Eureka]

Are you planning to control it using the flue, or water temperature?

 

[mark cline]

Flue temperature, I have a of controller for the total boiler shut down, i want the fan to shut off at a higher temperature

 

[salecker]

Watching...
Been looking for a simple way to do this.
I bought some adjustable snap disc's from the bay,i have one hooked up to a light and it seems to be at an ok position for shutting the light off when the firebox is empty and the coal bed is used up.
I was,am going to get an electrician to hook the snap disk up through a relay to shut off the fan,maybe the complete boiler.

 

[mark cline]

The PID controller that I put in was simple and easy to put in and program . On YouTube there is a guy his name is George from Hops and barley or barley and hops . I used the Inkbird 106 vh ssr controller , he goes through and explains how it works and how to make every connection. Then there is another video on how to program the PID. It works like a charm but I want to go one step further to shut down the blower then at a lower temp the total shut down will turn off all the pumps and boiler controls, eliminating that last trip out to the boiler.

 

[sloeffle]

It's the same principal that guys are doing with their wood furnaces. Except they are opening the flap up front up when the temperature gets below a certain point. I'd highly ( cough cough wink wink ) recommend get a PID controller from Auber Instruments vs Amazon or Flebay. Auber has a number that you can call for support too.

I'm pretty these two models will do what you are wanting to do:

1/16 DIN PID Temperature Controller (For Relay) [SYL-2342] - $40.89 : Auber Instruments, Inc., Temperature control solutions for home and industry

Auber Instruments, Inc. 1/16 DIN PID Temperature Controller (For Relay) [SYL-2342] - Holiday sale ends on 12/1/2024!Product Updates: The Wi-Fi-enabled version is now available! Check AW-SYL-2342 for details. This is a dual display 1/16 DIN size (1.89x1.89" or 48 x 48 mm) temperature/process...

www.auberins.com

1/16 DIN PID Temperature Controller (For SSR) [SYL-2352] - $40.89 : Auber Instruments, Inc., Temperature control solutions for home and industry

Auber Instruments, Inc. 1/16 DIN PID Temperature Controller (For SSR) [SYL-2352] - Holiday sale ends on 12/1/2024!Product Updates: The Wi-Fi-enabled version is now available! Check AW-SYL-2352 for details. This is a dual display, 1/16 DIN size (1.89 x1.89" or 48 x 48 mm) temperature/process...

www.auberins.com

I'd probably call Auber and see what they recommend though since you'll be switching 120V vs 24V AC with a wood furnace.

 

[brenndatomu]

Then there is another video on how to program the PID. It works like a charm but I want to go one step further to shut down the blower then at a lower temp the total shut down will turn off all the pumps and boiler controls, eliminating that last trip out to the boiler.

Simple enough to do, especially with 2 separate PID controllers...I agree with @sloeffle , get an Auber, much better quality, directions, and support.

my PID has 120v when it’s on ( out light on) . Are there settings in the controller that would just cut power like a light a switch , like the same as disconnecting the aquastat

Yes, the SYL-2342 linked above is rated for 10A at 120v.
Are you wanting to shut off based on flue temp? If so, you will need a 3-4" long K type thermocouple too...

 

[slowzuki]

Not quite the same but there is a simple timer on my Jetstream for the blower. A few dozen burns and can guess the time for a full load of softwood and hard wood pretty well already. Once blower is off the aqua stat scavenges the heat out with the circulator over the next hour or two.

 

[mark cline]

I have an idea that I need to check out but I have a few things to wrap up , so it might not be for a day or 2 . I’m thinking my solution is in the programming.

 

[mark cline]

Today I was able to wire my PID controller through the aquastat wiring . I’m using the Inkbird 106 vh with ssr , the aquastat will shut down the blower when hitting the high limit and the Inkbird PID will shut down the blower at a preset low temperature like around 160 and the other PID controller will totally shut down the boiler and pumps at a lower setting than the blower PID. The PID that controls the blower is just an unpowered switch, the wiring is a little different and the programming is different. I’m not sure if the settings are different for a different PID controller, but if you use the Inkbird, pm me and I’ll send you a wiring diagram and the settings parameters.