englander 25-pdvc

[xtreme77mopar]

Just wondering if anyone has had an issue with there exhaust blower making a loud whinning noise, i have cleaned this stove from top to bottom and still making the noise. I know its not the bottom auger, I pulled of the side cover and the motor is extremely hot. Hope you guys can help!
Ed

 

[rmac]

I just started having the same issue last week. It comes and goes, sometimes lasts for a few minutes, sometimes for a few hours. I'm just about through my first ton on this stove (25PDV). I will try an access the fan to see if it needs cleaning. Any other thoughts/suggesstions out there?

 

[drizler]

Do yourself a favor and go buy a cheap auto stethescope at Advance or Auto Zone. I have been working on my own junk longer than I care to remember and never bothered to get one till recently. Just got one a couple months ago after using sockets, extensions and glasses forever and all I can say is WOW. You can not only hear exactly where its loudest but what the sound really is going on and EXACTLY where its loudest. Get one its only 10 bucks or so. You will find yourself down the road. It reaches way in there into places where you can't get with those improvised things.

 

[xtreme77mopar]

Its def. the motor...someting internal. guess I'll be contacting englander and buying a new motor for a stove thats only a few months old....I'll see what they say maybe they can help me out!

 

[doghouse]

$150.26, Incliding freight. Thats how much mine cost. :ahhh: I wonder if that hearthtools.com just above the forum posts has it any cheeper?

 

[drizler]

Ah, before you shell out the megabux on it why not look into the warranty? Second thought is that most of these motors, blowers and switches all come off the shelf as a standard item. They are out there with a standard part number and that is where Englander got it from themselves just like all the others. If you can't get any warranty satisfaction start looking and asking. There are guys here and on the other boards at the bottom of my post who know those numbers. Once you get the cross reference you can get one from Grainger or Mcmaster Car. Try to get the number off your motor if you can see it and search it on the net. There are a couple other online stores and ebay to consider as well. Get that PN and its easy after that. For that matter it is a good idea to find out what the other motor numbers are and file them in case something else goes. I know a few guys who have those stoves, some 8 or 9 years old and maybe one motor failure in all that time. Failure in your amount of time is pretty unusual. FWIW it's most often the auger feed gear motors that go usually from hard debris jamming the auger.

 

[stoveguy2esw]

dont buy the motor if the stove is just a few months old the motor is covered under the factory warranty, contact my shop at the 800-245-6489 number , please have your stove's model and serial number handy when you do , we will require that to fill out the warranty request. or click this link http://www.englanderstoves.com/warranty/warranty-claim.html and submit it online no arguement on the warranty if the stove is less than a year old from purchase i will ship a no cost replacement. if you have not filled out your warranty card and registered the stove , no biggie , we will register it when you call and then ship the part anyway.

i have no issue with selling parts when they are needed but i do not intend to sell a part when it is still under warranty

 

[Tailrace]

Mike comes through again! Now that's what I call customer service ;-)

 

[xtreme77mopar]

Thanks for all the help here, Mike I will be calling later this week...I work long hours and will have to free up some time to make the call....Thanks a million

 

[stoveguy2esw]

Thanks for all the help here, Mike I will be calling later this week...I work long hours and will have to free up some time to make the call....Thanks a million

hey if you are tied up during the workday and have the issue pinpointed (your part # is pu-076002b)and know what part you need, do an online warranty claim , we can fill your request without you having to contact us. if you have nbot registered your stove , take a sec and register it online at the website then send the claim, no need to work around our schedule that way. PM me if you have questions or any issues doing this online. happy to help

BTW if saturday is an off day for you and you would prefer to talk to one of my techs , i have techs in the office from 10-1 eastern time.

 

[drogers5]

I had the same problem for years. Tonight it was making lots of noise, I look the vacuum to the motor and the noise went away. It seems to make noise with lots of heat. Hope this helps.

 

[pelletizer]

I thought mine was starting to do this a few weeks ago it was very faint but last night it got louder and is now constant.
Unfortunately it was when we had company over and friends were checking out the stove :grrr:
Looks like I will be using Mikes link as the stove is 6 months old.
Must be a bad motor I have only burned 39 bags of pellets in the stove.
Still happy with the stove and have no regrets buying an Englander 25-PDVC

 

[pelletizer]

I checked my exaust motor and it is a fasco motor and does not look like this pic of part # PU-076002B

Maybe this pic is what Englander used to use for exaust motors?

Even my room blower is a fasco and does not look like the pic on Englanders web site?

 

[slvrblkk]

I checked my exaust motor and it is a fasco motor and does not look like this pic of part # PU-076002B

Maybe this pic is what Englander used to use for exaust motors?

Even my room blower is a fasco and does not look like the pic on Englanders web site?

I believe those are the one they currently use. I think they are called "C" frame motors.

 

[pelletizer]

Here is a pic of what the Fasco Motor looks like on my 25-PDVC , Just the motor not the blower housing,

 

[slvrblkk]

That's what mine looks like too. I believe these (broken link removed to http://www.cshincorporated.com/product_info.php/products_id/5573) can be used as replacements also.... not 100% sure of that, though.

 

[stoveguy2esw]

I checked my exaust motor and it is a fasco motor and does not look like this pic of part # PU-076002B

Maybe this pic is what Englander used to use for exaust motors?

Even my room blower is a fasco and does not look like the pic on Englanders web site?

the picture on our site is of an older type we used to use, its been replaced since by a motor similar to the one in the later post, we just havent updated the picture

 

[pelletizer]

Thanks Mike, I pulled off the back panel and side plate and vacuumed the motor and looked for oil ports but it was not that dusty and no oil ports she's whining a bit tonight but heating the house great. My family was over last night and was pretty impressed with the stove and how it heats the house and how little oil I have burned.

Hope you and all on the site had a good Christmas, HO HO HO.

 

[Tom Arsenault]

My exhaust blower just went on my Englander 25-PDVC. The stove is 2 years old and of cousre it's only a 1 year warrenty. Stupid me! I sent it to a electric motor repair shop and paid $70 to get the bearing replace. After I install it, 2 Days later the same thing. Somebody please don't tell me it's a defective motor. I got the replacement gasket from the manual and it's the wrong gasket. Auuuggghhh!

 

[pelletizer]

I would take it back to the electric motor repair shop and put the pressure on for a refund it may work you never know, then purchase a direct replacement from Englander stove.

I don't think a 2 year old motor let alone mine with 3 months of use should crap out but hey "its made in,,, you guessed it" China!

 

[drizler]

[quote author="toma1955" date="1230514242"]My exhaust blower just went on my Englander 25-PDVC. The stove is 2 years old and of cousre it's only a 1 year warrenty. Stupid me! I sent it to a electric motor repair shop and paid $70 to get the bearing replace. After I install it, 2 Days later the same thing. Somebody please don't tell me it's a defective motor. I got the replacement gasket from the manual and it's the wrong gasket. Auuuggghhh![/quote


Take it back to the shop and tell them to fix it right. Be nice to them and see what they say and offer to do before you get ugly about it. It may cost you a few bucks more but since you are into them for that much you might as well continue the adventure. Possibly they could cut you a decent deal on a new one if necessary. At the least you should get more than a few days use from a repaired motor if they inspected it at all which they should have. When its all over and if you need a new one make sure to keep the old one for parts.

 

[petejung]

My first blower motor went bad last year after only 4 months of burning. Got a new one under warranty, and it's been used only 3 months and it, too, is starting to whine quite loudly, but intermittently. I'm pretty disappointed that this motor has only lasted a few months, as they are not cheap to replace.

Did anyone ever come up with a cross-reference part # for this motor?

 

[pelletizer]

My new one is on the way "thanks Englander" fast service!!

 

[petejung]

Same here. The guy at Englander was real nice, but said this wasn't a "common problem". Don't know if I believe him on that part of the issue or not, but Englander stoves cust service was top notch as usual. You've got a fine crew there, Mike. Give them all a raise!

 

[stoveguy2esw]

Same here. The guy at Englander was real nice, but said this wasn't a "common problem". Don't know if I believe him on that part of the issue or not, but Englander stoves cust service was top notch as usual. You've got a fine crew there, Mike. Give them all a raise!

ok hold up , you had 2 motors??! both gave you trouble?

actually , exhaust blowers have been really solid especially since we went to the shaded pole motor we are using today. so i will have to agree that its not a common thing (honest, im not spouting party line here , that motor has been really solid for us) which is why i asked my question above. is there anything out of the ordinary with your hookup?