Englander 25 PVDC Burn time questions

[Ryker99169]

Model Englander 25
Condition 1 week old
Pellets lignetics
Chimney length, clean out T,5' rise,90,3' horizontal,
Speed setting 1

So I'm only getting about 12 hours of feed time out of a full hopper wich seems to hold just under 40# bag sometimes it seems to burn longer.

Start up process is all over the chart with the amount of pellets that fill the burn pot sometimes approximately 1 cup and sometimes 6-8 overflowing before it fires off.

I'm definitely concerned about these abnormalities and very disappointed with customer service not catering to those of us on the west coast. I'm out the door prior to the team starting and home way after the close up the barn.

 

[Lake Girl]

Need to be a bit more specific on which model 25 what? Usually have letters that are more specific to model.

stoveguy2esw is the head tech at England Stove ... send him a pm or find a post of his as his email is in his signature line.

[email protected]

 

[Ryker99169]

 

[Lake Girl]

Sometimes the amount of pellets that are transferred to the burn pot by the auger is more related to size of pellets themselves. Smaller pellets will load more per auger turn than longer pellets.

Manual doesn't have much info on auger timing. Could try searching the forum for more info. Welcome to the forum!

 

[WoodPorn]

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Have you checked your lower 3 buttons yet?
LFF
LBA
AOT?

These wont affect your start up, but will drastically affect your burn time / fuel consumption.

Generally speaking the settings are 5-5-1 respectively.

 

[Ryker99169]

11 hours ago I topped off the hopper and set the settings at I for fuel feed and 9 for room air. And this is where I'm currently at in the hopper.

 

[jjones139]

11 hours ago I topped off the hopper and set the settings at I for fuel feed and 9 for room air. And this is where I'm currently at in the hopper.

Close the restrictor plate, which is located at the bottom of the hopper as far as it goes. Factory settings are 6-4-1 for the lower buttons. Make sure you're in the proper heat mode, which is "d". Here's the instructions to verify your burn mode.. Unplug the power supply from the wall and plug it back in and within 4 - 5 seconds you need to press both the up-and-down blower buttons at the same time and in the window to the left you will see either A, B, C or D mode in the heat range digital display if you see anything other than D then use the up and down buttons to change it to the proper mode which is D.

 

[Pete Zahria]

Just quickly...
I get 20-22 hours out of a hopper full
Settings are 3-4-1 Heat is at 1-4
Mode C

Dan

 

[JDHECKARD]

I also have the same stove and my burn times are the same.

 

[Ryker99169]

Lower 3 buttons. Tried them last night 12 hours and the hopper is empty. Going to check this restrictor plate here in a few minutes when it's shut down.

Have you checked your lower 3 buttons yet?
LFF
LBA
AOT?

These wont affect your start up, but will drastically affect your burn time / fuel consumption.

Generally speaking the settings are 5-5-1 respectively.

 

[Ryker99169]

Just quickly...
I get 20-22 hours out of a hopper full
Settings are 3-4-1 Heat is at 1-4
Mode C

Dan

Correct me if I am wrong 3-4-1 feed rate - burn air speed - room fan speed

 

[Ryker99169]

Thank you very much gentleman. I'm giving this a fresh burn test. Setting D 3-4-1 pellet restrictor maximum closed start time 11:10 am with one maximum filled hopper if 40#

Now for some questions. As the owners manual is definitely lacking in all the information that I received here. #1 What's A B C D. #2 why is the system not responding to my manual feed rate setting.

 

[Pete Zahria]

Correct me if I am wrong 3-4-1 feed rate - burn air speed - room fan speed

Yes... the bottom three buttons.

As for the ABCD... those are heat modes. You should only be either on C or D.
(C is hotter)... only works on the first two heat range settings (1 and 2).

Be careful not to close your restrictor too much.. make small adjustments there, and watch
that when you change brands of pellets, that they are very similar in size..
If the pellets are too long, you won't get enough pellets feeding on low heat settings..

Dan

 

[Ryker99169]

As you can see from image I can't close it to far could.you please explain what you meant by c is hotter? Does this some how miraculously make more BTU?

 

[rich2500]

c mode changes the auger feed rates so it feeds faster creating more heat

 

[Ryker99169]

So what I am.understanding this thing has 36 separate fees rates. A 1-9, B 1-9, C 1-9 and D 1-9

 

[DrewBoogie]

In essence, yes. You wouldn't use mode A or B with a PDVC. The board is used in other models that may use A or B, one of them is a diagnostic mode i think.

As far as C and D go, those are two that you'd use. D is the factory setting, but you can easily switch to C. C mode's feed rates are the fastest, putting more pellets in the burn post. I run C mode once it gets and stays below freezing outside. I can keep my 1000 sq ft cape 70 downstairs and 63 up when it's single digits to below zero outside. That's with the lower holes plugged up and softwood pellets.

 

[Pete Zahria]

So what I am.understanding this thing has 36 separate fees rates. A 1-9, B 1-9, C 1-9 and D 1-9

Not exactly...
Changing the mode, only effects settings 1 and 2...
after that the stove just defaults
to factory settings...
And as mentioned earlier... use only c or d.....

 

[DrewBoogie]

Not exactly...
Changing the mode, only effects settings 1 and 2...
after that the stove just defaults
to factory settings...
And as mentioned earlier... use only c or d.....

Not the case with Modes. Changing modes affects all heat settings. Changing the lower 3 numbers, regardless of mode, is what only affects heat setting 1 and 2.

 

[Pete Zahria]

My mistake... thanks.. that does sound right..
it's been a while since I actually made my changes,
or thought about this stove...

Now that I think about it, on a high heat setting, mine actually shut down,
probly from getting too hot...

Dan..

 

[DrewBoogie]

I believe it. My stove gets wicked hot running in C-mode heat setting 9. It's never shut down or been dangerously hot. I can only run it that high when it's super cold outside, like less than 10 degrees.