Englander 55 TRP IP-S aka 25 IP-S

[kenstogie]

So I just hit the GO! button on a new (refurb) 55TRP IP-S
Here's some pics that I basically lifted from Dexterday and Mike Holton in another thread
https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/mainers-mardens-stove-deal.89751/
https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/got-stove-woodstove-porn.77865/page-2
:
To avoid more confusion I am quoting stoveguyesw aka mike

"the cabinet style is not the determining factor as to which is which, its the build date. we started out with hanger style ,and changed to hinge style after the first couple runs of the stove.
currently anything either the IP or the IP-S will come with hinged panels, the ones we built early last year were the hanger type regardless if round or square"

The 55 TRP IP (25 IP) is on the Left and the 55 TRP IP-S (25 IP-S) is on the right.
(broken image removed)

..... now I have to wait for it to be delivered.



Oh here's the specs!

Heats up to 2200 sq. ft. of living space.
Large, 80 LB. hopper holds 2 bags of wood pellets.
Huge ash drawer designed for easy ash collection.
Thermostat capable (wall OR remote) for ultimate heat control.
Easy-Access panels provide quick and easy cleaning.
Large glass door gives great view of fire flames (10 5/8 x 14 1/2).
Specially-Engineered combustion system for more realistic flame pattern & longer times between clean-out.
Freestanding unit is Mobile Home approved.
Dimensions: 26 3/4" W x 43 1/4" H x 24 3/8" D.
Weight 374 LBS.
Blower Capacity: 250 cfm; with adj settings

 

[Don2222]

Nice

Please let us know how it works!

Looks nice! Good Luck.

 

[stayfitz]

Good looking stove! Those access doors are fantastic! Does the IP(S) version have the same heat exchanger as the EP version?

 

[kenstogie]

"the IP is the same base exchanger setup as the CPM" That's according to Mike from Englander. I imagine he will chime in at some point, he's the oracle when it comes to Englander stoves. LOL

 

[imacman]

Can't wait for pics and review!

 

[kenstogie]

I already have the tracking number. Luckily I just bought a little Harbor Frieght trailer and can pick it up at the freight location which is 10 mins away. Save me $75. Trailer and hitch only cost me 350 so now it really only cost me $275 with the actual cost dropping. LOL

 

[kenstogie]

I am a failry good photographer, maybe I'll take a couple of good shots and foward them the Englander. They need better pic IMHO.

 

[stoveguy2esw]

I already have the tracking number. Luckily I just bought a little Harbor Frieght trailer and can pick it up at the freight location which is 10 mins away. Save me $75. Trailer and hitch only cost me 350 so now it really only cost me $275 with the actual cost dropping. LOL

yeah my shipping guy buzzed me up earlier today about that stove i figured you were the one who had bought it.

as for the pic's i didnt exactly have "high end" camera, just shot em with my digital on the fly so i could take em home to post.

but feel free to shoot some better shots when you get yours installed

 

[stoveguy2esw]

oh andf yeah, as for the roound and squared versions , the outer shell and the top being a different shape is the only real difference. the inner "hull" of the stove inside of the cabinet and the hopper etc are identical

 

[mchasal]

I already have the tracking number. Luckily I just bought a little Harbor Frieght trailer and can pick it up at the freight location which is 10 mins away. Save me $75. Trailer and hitch only cost me 350 so now it really only cost me $275 with the actual cost dropping. LOL

Congrats on the new stove. I'm looking at the same model. Can you share where you got it from? The listing on AmFm Energy doesn't have the "S" on it and looks to be the rounded model. Liking the easier access with the S.

 

[stoveguy2esw]

Congrats on the new stove. I'm looking at the same model. Can you share where you got it from? The listing on AmFm Energy doesn't have the "S" on it and looks to be the rounded model. Liking the easier access with the S.

andy at AMFM doesnt have any "s" versions in stock right now, as for access its pretty much the same , only difference is the shape of the panels.

im going to be over at the south plant for a meeting tomorrow morning, i'll check and see if there are any "s" models available that he would not know about yet. will let ya know

 

[mchasal]

andy at AMFM doesnt have any "s" versions in stock right now, as for access its pretty much the same , only difference is the shape of the panels.

im going to be over at the south plant for a meeting tomorrow morning, i'll check and see if there are any "s" models available that he would not know about yet. will let ya know

Thanks for the info. The top post says that the S has the hinged doors but the older one requires unbolting the side panels. Is that incorrect? Initially looking at the pics, I thought the one with the doors wide open was the S, but now I'm not sure.

Edit: Ok, looking at the pics again it's clear that the one with the doors open is the rounded model. So the access is the same and only the shape of the shell. Which is of course correct as that is what Mike said. @kenstogie, perhaps you can edit the OP to correct that.

 

[stoveguy2esw]

Thanks for the info. The top post says that the S has the hinged doors but the older one requires unbolting the side panels. Is that incorrect? Initially looking at the pics, I thought the one with the doors wide open was the S, but now I'm not sure.

Edit: Ok, looking at the pics again it's clear that the one with the doors open is the rounded model. So the access is the same and only the shape of the shell. Which is of course correct as that is what Mike said. @kenstogie, perhaps you can edit the OP to correct that.

when we we first produced then they had "lift off" sides the later versions are "swing out" versions, i'll check to see which one andy has in stock for that round one and let you know


FWIW neither version requires any "unbolting" to remove the sides and the front has always been hinged to swing out. only cover which is bolted on is the rear access panel (on all of them) but its going to be a rare case that the rear panel would have to be removed to do anything.

 

[mchasal]

when we we first produced then they had "lift off" sides the later versions are "swing out" versions, i'll check to see which one andy has in stock for that round one and let you know


FWIW neither version requires any "unbolting" to remove the sides and the front has always been hinged to swing out. only cover which is bolted on is the rear access panel (on all of them) but its going to be a rare case that the rear panel would have to be removed to do anything.

Ok, that's great, thanks a bunch. Either one would work fine for me, I just didn't want to have to get tools out if there was an option. The lift off might even be better as the planned location will have a wall to the left. Do the hinged doors have lift off hinges as well?

 

[stoveguy2esw]

Ok, that's great, thanks a bunch. Either one would work fine for me, I just didn't want to have to get tools out if there was an option. The lift off might even be better as the planned location will have a wall to the left. Do the hinged doors have lift off hinges as well?

actually no, they are "either /or" so it will be either a hinged model or a "hanger" model. we thought about "close quarters" initially when we went with the hung sides , but decided after the fact the swing outs would be more popular as the panels are fairly large , so lifting them out may be challenging for some customers. to me both are quite easy, but im a big boy

the front panel though all of them are swing out so to access the front door of the firebox you do not have to lift off the panel on the front even if its a "hanger" version on the sides

 

[mchasal]

actually no, they are "either /or" so it will be either a hinged model or a "hanger" model. we thought about "close quarters" initially when we went with the hung sides , but decided after the fact the swing outs would be more popular as the panels are fairly large , so lifting them out may be challenging for some customers. to me both are quite easy, but im a big boy

the front panel though all of them are swing out so to access the front door of the firebox you do not have to lift off the panel on the front even if its a "hanger" version on the sides

Ok, thanks again for all the info, and patience.

 

[kenstogie]

Edits made. Thanks Mike for the clarifications. Been working for 3 weeks straight so not a lot of time. Stove is supposed to arrive on 17th. Maybe pick up on 18th? Dunno, but as soon as I can. Its like being a kid before xmas. I will do the driveway test but am installing a floor (probably h/w or pergo type first prior to install. Also going to make a hearth.

 

[stoveguy2esw]

ok, i think we're still a bit out of kilter on the "lift off" versus hinged models.

the cabinet style is not the determining factor as to which is which, its the build date. we started out with hanger style ,and changed to hinge style after the first couple runs of the stove.

currently anything either the IP or the IP-S will come with hinged panels, the ones we built early last year were the hanger type regardless if round or square

 

[kenstogie]

Got the call early yesterday morning "your stove is in, come by and pick it up" So I left work early to hook up the trailerconnection kit in my car. It started raining and besides muttering a few curse words I got the trailer lights/connections done by about 6. ....about 3 hours, which I didn't think was all that bad considering I'd never done it before and I wanted to take my time and do it right. Amazingly everything worked the first time with no issues.

So off to the Estes trucking where the pellet stove was. Shooting the $h! _ with the guys there and they asked "Is that a pellet stove?" and then they asked "Is that from AMFM or something like that?" "We see those all the time"

So I loaded it onto my $200 harbor freight special trailer strapped it down and away I went. It did shift a little bit in transit so be careful if your doing the same thing.

Called up a cigar buddy of mine to help me muscle it into the house and now it sits on a dolly in the basement. Once I put my floor in (pergo/insulation over concrete) and build a hearth I will install the stove. And supplies are being bought this weekend so I hope (for me that means I WILL!) to get much of it done in the next week or 2.

Very, very nice looking stove but by the time it was all said and done it was 9:30 and I hadn't eaten so I really didn't scope it out as much as I'd have liked.

Pics to follow.

I also list the second 25 PDVC I had in CL and have gotten probably 10 calls/texts/emails. Someones coming over to look at this evening with a truck so it's looking promising that will be sold.

 

[imacman]

Congrats on the new stove. We'll all be waiting for the install & burning pics......btw, son't forget to do your pre-burn outdoors.....since it's on a dolly, easy to do, and maybe we can see some pre-install burning pics!

 

[kenstogie]

Congrats on the new stove. We'll all be waiting for the install & burning pics......btw, son't forget to do your pre-burn outdoors.....since it's on a dolly, easy to do, and maybe we can see some pre-install burning pics!

Thanks I forgot about that!! What are the procedures for that? It's my first "new" stove.

 

[imacman]

Thanks I forgot about that!! What are the procedures for that? It's my first "new" stove.

Burn on 5/5 for 3 hours, I think. There should be a info CD in with the paperwork that goes over all that stuff.

Hold on....I'll take a look at mine.....

 

[stoveguy2esw]

actually i dont think that one has a dvd in it, we have just gotten them back from the manufacturer in the last couple days. i can check on that and maybe have one sent up but it wouldnt be of much help today i guess.

 

[imacman]

Yep, and do an initial "dry run" without any pellets......that takes about 20 minutes and checks all the systems and safety shutdown.

Then, put pellets in and burn on 5/5 for 3 hours. Don't need any exhaust pipe either, so just roll it outdoors and fire it up.

 

[kenstogie]

I don't need no DVD as long as I know what to do. It will be cool to see it fire up.

So then the break in is basically.
...
1- Plug it in, Hit start, check to make sure the auger and combution fan work. Make sure the "oh sh!t no fire auto shutoff" is working too. this take about 20 mins. I understand the room blower will never spin as it never reaches temp.
2- Take it outside and fire it up for 3 hours on 5 (combustion) and 5 (room fan) to burn off any excess paint/solvents/oils/grease etc etc. and to make sure the room blower works also. Hit shutdown to make sure that works too.

I seem to recall that it may smoke a little while doing the break in, is this correct?