Going to HS Mansfield 8011 from Woodstock Ideal Steel Hybrid - upgrade or not?

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Hello. Occasional lurker and rare poster here, checking in on a potential stove switch.

So my house, purchased 5 years ago, came with a Woodstock Ideal Steel Hybrid 210 in the live-in basement. I like the stove, but can't say I love it. My main issues are 1) it's fairly hard to start, 2) smokes a lot when door is open, 3) generates a bit more creosote build-up than I'd like, 4) aesthetics - not terrible, but not exactly beautiful. I've burned a variety of woods - mostly soft (I live in CO, hardwood is a premium). I've actually settled on aspen as my favorite for this stove - it starts easy, burns relatively hot, and much cleaner than the firs and pines (and even some hardwood) I'd been using. Yes I go through a lot of wood, but it's easy to come by aspen. The switch to aspen has helped with the creosote somewhat. I have not been able to solve the smoking issue, even with careful use (just cracking the door for 15-30 seconds to get a good draft going, then slowly opening) it just insists on puffing out a good bit of smoke almost every time I open the door. The "pro" I've had up a couple times has verified the chimney should be more than adequate - it's at least 25', and a couple feet below the ridge elevation. On the plus side, the stove puts out a lot of heat and burns a good 8-10 hours on a full load. It also seems well-built and has been low maintenance, other than frequent chimney cleaning.

Recently a used Hearthstone Mansfield 8011 came up for sale at a really good price. It's an older build, from 2001. From what I can tell, it's fairly comparable specs-wise to my WS, though obviously it's full cast+stone vs the steel and token stone side pieces on the Ideal. The Mansfield claims up to 80K BTU/Hr, whereas the Ideal only claims 60K. However the SF heated is only a bit less, 2200 vs 2500. The Mansfield is certainly better looking! On the other hand, it seems Woodstock is better respected for build quality/reliability than Hearthstone - is that the general consensus?

So finally getting to my question - does the brain trust think I would be happier with the Mansfield than my Ideal Steel, or is this a case of "the grass is always greener" and I should leave well enough alone? Any chance someone out there has experience with both stoves?
 
Sounds more like a chimney problem to me. What's your elevation there?
The chimney is the engine that powers the stove...switching stoves makes no sense unless you make sure the engine doesn't have a problem...and your local chimney guy may or may not know what he's talking about...too many don't.
Tell us about the chimney/stove pipe...does the stove pipe go straight up from the stove, or out through the wall and then 90* up. Is this a stainless-steel chimney or masonry? Have any pics of your setup?
Sounds like this is an older IS...very well may be time for a new cat...or at least some maintenance on it.
I think swapping out for the HS would be a step or two down from the IS.
It's more than likely that the HS would not make any more heat than the IS...many companies overate the stove output....but I'd say the IS is underrated if anything.