After reading posts on this forum I decided I needed to see the Harman stoves in person so we went to the local dealer which is 120 miles away. The young lady that helped us was very knowledgeable about the product, she knew all the ins and outs of the venting, controls, btu, etc. etc. We looked at the XXV, very nice, the Advance, the Accentra and the P43 & P68. I asked her about the P61 which was not on the floor and she said they did not make a P61?? Could it be that the P61 is not sold in the West and that is why she did not know about it? Just curious and has anyone else had such an experience.