Hearthstone II - Info?

[sesro1978]

Hi-

Anyone out there have one of these stoves? I'm getting one (for free) that is in good shape (save for a piece of cracked glass) and would like to know what to expect from it.

I'm planning on installing it in place of my pellet insert - in the masonry fireplace (relining the chimney to 6" pipe), which I'm generally unhappy with.

I've reviewed the online manual, but am looking for opinions of the stove.

Thanks!

 

[defiant3]

AWESOME You'll probably love it. Stone stays hot for hours after the fire's out, simple and rugged. Like my wife, "looks good, cooks good".

Enjoy

 

[fbelec]

hi sesro1978
i have one. it works very well. and burns fairly clean considering it is not a epa stove. if you have plans to light it here or there keep in mind that it takes a while to heat up the stone. if quick fires are what you have in mind this might not be the stove for you. but once it is hot it will throw heat about 2 hours after the fire is out. over night burns will be hard to do in this stove because of the small fire box. i get 4 hours out of a full fire box load give or take 1 hour. good dry full size oak stuffed in the stove will get about 5 hours and then you have the stones throwing heat for a while after so if you are a 6 hour a night sleeper it might work. try to keep the space behind the fire back clean of ash. if not the big H in the middle of the fireback will warp and make a hole. good stove thou.

frank

 

[dsljim]

I am burning 2 of them, on my second season.
Is the fireback from the secondary air pipe down? In the one I replaced it with a piece of stainless, on the second stove I might just eliminate it. In my engineering manuals from 1926 it states that fire should never come in contact with metal. After 35 years, the only things going bad in these stoves are the metal parts. A couple pieces of stainless tubing,and $3,000 is the only difference I see between these and a heritage, oh and a big expensive piece of glass I don't want.

 

[sesro1978]

Thanks guys - good to know this stove isn't junk.

In terms of an overnight burn, I'm not super concerned there but it certainly good to know what other folks are getting out of this stove.

It's not in my possession yet, but will be in a few weeks (I have to go pick it up 2-weeks from now), so I'm not 100% on what the inside condition is. From what I'm told (and I trust the guy who's giving it to me), it's in good shape.

 

[fbelec]

hi dsljim
not meaning to highjack the thread but this does concern the h2. are you or have you removed the fireback, right side plate and baffle? what kind of burn times are you seeing? what temp do you run your stove at?

thanks
frank

 

[fbelec]

btw sesro1978 this is a easy rebuild. the hardest part of this rebuild will be pulling the top off with stones attached to the top and putting it down without damage. (heavy). the next time i do this i will spin the secondary air tube so that the holes are pointing to one o'clock position. talking with jim casavant at hearthstone a few years back he said it doesn't make a difference but looking at a half full firebox or more the air holes get blocked until the load burns down to below the halfway spot and with it spun to blow in at a higher spot makes sense to me that the secondary air will get to the top faster than trying to go thru a load of wood.

frank

 

[sesro1978]

Good to know that the rebuild is easy as I expect something will need to be replaced. I've read that this stove weighs around 500 pounds...still trying to figure out how my buddy and I are going to get this off of his 1-ton pickup.

Anyone know if this stove is UL listed? That's a requirement from the insurance company insuring our home - the stove has to be UL listed. Also apparently needs to be installed by a licensed chimney person - the flue liner that is. That's a bit of a bummer since I know I could probably do the job myself, but I guess in the end we'll know it was done right.

Another question (I forgot to ask the gentleman giving me the stove); is it a top vent or a rear vent? Rear vent would be preferable for me since I plan to put it in (at least partially) our existing masonry fireplace and I'm not quite sure how I would squeeze in a top vent...guess one could put the stove in place first and then shimmy behind it to configure/connect the venting to the chimney liner.

 

[fbelec]

i got it off of my friends truck with the stove strapped to a two wheeler and 4 people. it is heavy. just be glad that it's not a H1. i think that stove is well over 600 lbs. the H2 is a UL stove. the plate that shows that is on the back. my stove vents out of the top. i think it can be vented from the rear but i think it's a different stone on the back than the top. i don't think it can be swapped, but don't quote me on that. if possible vent it from the top and run a thimble thru the wall into the chimney so you don't have to bury the stove into the fireplace. you'll lose heat if it's inside the fireplace. chimney guy should have that covered.

 

[dsljim]

My top stones 3-400 front stones sound the window 5-600°
Top baffle is in with stainless liner, and inconell screen hanging from it.
The top stones are loose on the one, makes for fast easy cleaning and changing/ modifying the top baffle.
Stove 1 is on 3" square tubing skids, stove 2 is on 12" I beam skids, so much easier to load and remove the ashes.

 

[sesro1978]

Very helpful information guys - thank you!!

 

[sesro1978]

i got it off of my friends truck with the stove strapped to a two wheeler and 4 people. it is heavy. just be glad that it's not a H1. i think that stove is well over 600 lbs. the H2 is a UL stove. the plate that shows that is on the back. my stove vents out of the top. i think it can be vented from the rear but i think it's a different stone on the back than the top. i don't think it can be swapped, but don't quote me on that. if possible vent it from the top and run a thimble thru the wall into the chimney so you don't have to bury the stove into the fireplace. you'll lose heat if it's inside the fireplace. chimney guy should have that covered.

By a two wheeler, do you mean a moving dolly?

I'm glad to know the stove is UL - as I mentioned, the insurance company is requiring it. Strangely enough, the town doesn't seem to care if the stove is UL listed, but they require the liner to be.

Yea, probably could do a thimble - just need to convince the wife that it will 'look' ok

 

[sesro1978]

Well guys, I made a boo-boo or rather, an assumption. The guy giving me the stove never did tell me the model, I just assumed/remembered it was an H2 (I've spent time at this guys house - he's my brother's father-in-law - so my bad).

Turns out the stove is a Hearthstone III - an even more obscure stove. I'm really excited to get it because it's a solid stove, it's smaller, which works better for my fireplace opening, the vent pipe is on the back, but angled up (again, better for me), and honestly, I think it looks really cool.

That said, seems like parts are going to be near impossible to find, save for a few. It's not the electric model, I do know that for sure (honestly, I do...not another assumption). What else can you guys tell me about this stove?

 

[fbelec]

two wheeler like what the beer guy delivers the cases of beer moving dolly has 4 wheels and is made out of wood. i used a appliance dolly. it's meant for 600 lbs and has a strap.

the H3 is a small stove. will it heat your area? i looked at one before buying my H2 the guy was getting rid of it because it took really small splits and he could not get more than a couple of hours out of a load. but it is a good looking stove. shouldn't be to heavy but because of the stone it might be 300 lbs or so.

not sure about the H3 being UL but it is newer than mine and i have a UL plate on the back of mine

 

[fbelec]

seen the picture on the other thread. looks to be in good shape. what is the knob on the top for i forget
post some more pictures.

 

[sesro1978]

two wheeler like what the beer guy delivers the cases of beer moving dolly has 4 wheels and is made out of wood. i used a appliance dolly. it's meant for 600 lbs and has a strap.

the H3 is a small stove. will it heat your area? i looked at one before buying my H2 the guy was getting rid of it because it took really small splits and he could not get more than a couple of hours out of a load. but it is a good looking stove. shouldn't be to heavy but because of the stone it might be 300 lbs or so.

not sure about the H3 being UL but it is newer than mine and i have a UL plate on the back of mine

Gotcha!

I knew the H3 was a smaller stove, but I think for my application that will work - that said, the wife has the ultimate say The guy I'm getting the stove from (next weekend) says he can put 14" wood in it. He has a chainsaw jig just in-case it gets delivered longer than 14".

Stay tuned...