help with russo insert installation w/ PICS

[blackcorrado]

hello, i bought a russo coal/wood insert used and the outlet coming out of the back of the stove is square instead of round,
i was wondering how i would hook this up to a round chimney liner? can i weld an adaptor to it or is it something a company
out there makes to adapt?

thanks

 

[blackcorrado]

please?

 

[blackcorrado]

bump, please help before it gets colder here!

 

[drdoct]

All I can say is wow! Well actually... Is that whole rectangle in the back the opening? No ledge or angle to put any kind of adapter on to is there? That rectangle looks huge for an exhaust. How big of a round chimney liner do you have? I'm sure this one will take at least a 8" one. A sheet metal shop can make you a rectangle to round transition if you can find a way to mount it on the stove and make it air tight, then it should work out. That insert sure looks like a big old dinosaur which is probably why you arent getting any takers on responding.

 

[WOODBUTCHER]

Have you tried calling these guys?

http://www.fireplaceseast.com/

Only thing I can offer is you'll need 3 firebricks to cover the coal grate in order to burn wood, and you need to have even spaces between them (not snug together) Becareful of the baffle, sometimes after awhile it comes loose and falls down when loading. It looks exactly like my old Russo except for the sqaure flue collar.

GoodLuck!

WoodBucther

 

[blackcorrado]

thanks for the responses,

i called fireplaceseast yesterday--they're supposed to be calling me back so i'm not sure
they're going to have an answer for me.

the tag says tested in 1981 so i couldn't imagine it being that old, although 81 isn't exactly new either.

the flue liner that we have is a 6" which i don't quite remember how we came to get that size,
in the picture of the square outlet in the post above, the metal piece inside of the box slides to
adjust the flue, not sure if that helps at all.

and in terms of having a sheetmetal shop fab something up, i have a mig welder that i could fab something up
with myself, i would just worry about air flow problems leading to creosote build-up or draft problems. Is that
something that people do commonly?

any other ideas? seems like russo's are all over the place, i can't believe this is something no one has dealt with.

thanks again.

 

[blackcorrado]

thanks for the responses,

i called fireplaceseast yesterday--they're supposed to be calling me back so i'm not sure
they're going to have an answer for me.

the tag says tested in 1981 so i couldn't imagine it being that old, although 81 isn't exactly new either.

the flue liner that we have is a 6" which i don't quite remember how we came to get that size,
in the picture of the square outlet in the post above, the metal piece inside of the box slides to
adjust the flue, not sure if that helps at all.

and in terms of having a sheetmetal shop fab something up, i have a mig welder that i could fab something up
with myself, i would just worry about air flow problems leading to creosote build-up or draft problems. Is that
something that people do commonly?

any other ideas? seems like russo's are all over the place, i can't believe this is something no one has dealt with.

thanks again.

ok, another thing i'm a bit confused about is: in the 2nd picture, on the far side(looking at it in the picture) of the square outlet coming out of the
stove, there is a 3-4" round pipe welded in, the pipe goes through the front of the surround that goes around the stove, so basicly......... it looks like it
should pull air from inside the house or room being heated, and blow it out through that square outlet and then up and out the chimney. the previous
owner put a piece of metal over it and sealed it so i wonder how necessary it really is, and whether it would help with efficiency possibly?

 

[WOODBUTCHER]

does the blower work? the square outlet in the back, Is that the wire for the temp sensor....maybe this is'nt the flue cuz other wise it would melt, maybe I am wrong.
Can you post some more pics? The blower blows hot air out of those 2 hex chambers in the front.

WoodButcher

 

[WOODBUTCHER]

Back in 2002 I talked with someone from Russo in Randolph MA. Here is the number I called.
Maybe it will help

Russo Products
61 Pleasant St
Randolph, MA 02368
(781) 963-1182

WoodButcher

 

[blackcorrado]

here's some more pics. some from the inside showing the rod going from front to rear for adjusting the flue? flow.
and measurements of the back with the adjustment open and closed.

inside measurements were 3.5 inches by 12 inches. an opening of 42 in2
a 6" flue pipe has an area of 9 X 3.14 or (r2 X 3.14) = 28.26in2

not sure if the flow of circular pipe is more than
square, if i were to make an adaptor to go to the 6"
flue pipe, what result would a restriction have on creosote,
temperature, and air flow? or would it even be a restriction
going to a circular tube which may flow better than rectangular.


aaahhh.

thanks again

 

[webbie]

Russo stoves of the same exact size used a 6", and I suppose this was only bigger because this was before the days of chimney lining - so the smoke just came out - or went slightly higher. I seem to remember a rectangle boot made of sheet metal or something like that.

If it were mine, I would do it one of two ways - either make up a sheet metal (stainless preferable) rectangle which can be placed from the stove up through the damper and sealed with a sheet metal block off plate - or line the entire chimney with a 6" ss, and use flex which is ovalized to connect ot the unit - somehow - by making a plate or adapter.

 

[blackcorrado]

thank you all for the help. I plan on modifying it to fit to a 6" SS flue liner we have purchased
already but i feel much better after hearing some other opinions that are similar to what i was
thinking.

I'll post a picture of the finished product.

 

[billofbourne]

I also have an fireplace insert that looks almost exactly like yours with the same rectangular outlet. The only name I can find on the stove is the word Meredith cast on to the lower ash door. The mass state building code talks to what you will need to do to get into compliance in Ma. Basically you will need to convert to a round or oval outlet that is no smaller in sross sedctional area that your effective outlet opening. I am thinking of fabricating and using a bolted and gasketed rectangulat plate and a 6 or 8 inch oval connection over the opening with inverted angle iron on the sides and rear of the opening depending on what the building inspector will allow. I would like to hear how you make out. Any other ideas out there. I live in Plainville Mass.

 

[ajfjunior]

Have you tried calling these guys?

http://www.fireplaceseast.com/

Only thing I can offer is you'll need 3 firebricks to cover the coal grate in order to burn wood, and you need to have even spaces between them (not snug together) Becareful of the baffle, sometimes after awhile it comes loose and falls down when loading. It looks exactly like my old Russo except for the sqaure flue collar.

GoodLuck!

WoodBucther

Hi all, i am new to the forum, i actually have the same Russo stove, etc.. So you mentioned about having three fire bricks installed over the grate etc...i have burned wood on the grate itself, is this something you highly recommend me doing??

thanks

 

[Burd]

I think that there was a post a couple of month back about this type of thing. Most every one said to make some thing up.Ill look to see if I cant find it for you.
Ha on the top of the page in the search box type in russo and youll find what your looking for.
Goood luck and stay warm,
Burd

 

[WOODBUTCHER]

My manual says it its fine to burn on the grate, although you'll burn wood faster.
I've sent you an email.......

WoodButcher

 

[Todd]

Maybe call Energy King and see if their square to round would fit yours?
(broken link removed to http://www.energyking.com/woodstoves.htm)