High temp RTV suggestions anyone?

[PASIEMT]

So after my first leaf blower trick/cleaning I was sitting here on my couch and had begun smelling that distinct smell of pellets burning. Not consistently, but every once in a which I would get that *wiff* of huh? pellets? After some research and some time with my stove, I had come to the conclusion that my venting was secured wrong. Dealer when I had fist purchased the stove suggested that I only secure the venting with flue tape like this....


Apparently... He might have been wrong. I like to believe that I'm super through when cleaning our stove. I detach the venting at the rear of the stove to clean and re-attach after every brushing/cleaning. So, my first question is... is that technique necessary?

After researching and some investigative work, I went out and purchased some of this....



I siliconed the adapter to the 3' of vent piping together. I then fed them through the thimble. I then siliconed the adapter to the stove exhaust with another bead of silicone. I then siliconed the connections left between the adapter/3' section and then the adapter on the stove, as so...



As you can see there's some aluminum tape left on the adapter, that just would not come off..

Did I overkill it? I plan on placing some flue tape over the silicone so no one walks into our home and sees my blue mess LOL. Please post any questions, comments or concerns or ADVICE! lol

Thanks for your input!

-Mike

 

[john193]

Looks good. You can rest assured nothing is getting out of there.

 

[DexterDay]

Looks good. You can rest assured nothing is getting out of there.

I agree. Nothing should be leaking now.

The stove snout, to stove adapter should always be sealed with RTV. If it wasn't, the smell is likely coming from that one joint, but doing all internal joints will put you at ease.

Why remove the vent from the stove when cleaning? Just run brush up your vent, to the snout?

You said you were gonna add some rise outside in your other thread? If it works now, why change it?

But if you must? Add a double clean-out. This will allow you to clean the vertical from the bottom and still clean the horizontal to the stove. Well worth the couple extra dollars in my opinion.

 

[skibladerj]

This may or may not be a issue but, 3m 3350 tape is only rated for a max temp of 230*.

 

[DirtyDave]

good ole monkeycum works on everything.

 

[Woody1911a1]

neither that tape or that silicone is temp rated for use on your flue .

 

[brack86svo]

neither that tape or that silicone is temp rated for use on your flue .

I agree. That silicone may hold up but, you should be using a high temp silicone. It is usually red or the copper based silicone.

 

[PASIEMT]

OK. Thank you very much for the advice guys, The packaging for the silicone stated it was rated to 500*, so I felt it was alright. No worries though, that's why I posted this here, to get the input from the experts on stoves, as I haven't even re-started our stove as of yet. Although I did do what I thought was a lot of research, there was no real clear-cut answer as far as what silicone and/or tape to EXACTLY use. It was advice saying... "any high temp silicone with a 500* rating is FINE" or just "aluminum tape".

Thank you very much again for your inputs and advice, as the last thing I want to do is burn our stove in an un-safe manner and/or put my family or myself at risk. If i can ask another favor please, is to let know EXACTLY as to what type of "red high temp rtv silicone" or "aluminum tape should be using?

Also, I would like to go with a vertical rise with our venting because we've lost power 2 or 3 times this winter and granted, it wasn't for any extended period of time, but still got some smoke in the house, which i's like to avoid.

 

[brack86svo]

Here's what I like to use.

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It might be overkill but, better to be over protected then not. At the insulated joints, the blue would probably be fine. Any place that gets direct heat, not insulated, may end up cracking the blue silicone.

Any auto parts store should carry it.

 

[SmokeyTheBear]

If that silly putty is rated 500you are technically good to go on that, as for that tape and if you decide to use tape again, you should use 3M 2113NA which is actual flue tape and rated to 600.

 

[PASIEMT]

Thanks again guys.... Now, any idea on how to REMOVE some of this blue silicone?! LMAO!

 

[brack86svo]

You can use a wire wheel in a drill to help get it off. Wire brush will work as well, just takes longer.

 

[Defiant]

Thanks again guys.... Now, any idea on how to REMOVE some of this blue silicone?! LMAO!

Hydrochloric acid maybe

 

[DexterDay]

Thanks again guys.... Now, any idea on how to REMOVE some of this blue silicone?! LMAO!

If its rated at 500° then why remove it? 500° is plenty..

I use a nice clear RTV rated for 500°.. Red, Blue, Black, Clear, whatever suits your fancy

 

[PASIEMT]

Ok? mixed reviews... lol

This is the permatex ultra blue product info...

(broken link removed to http://www.permatex.com/products/product-categories/gasketing/gasket-makers/permatex-ultra-blue-multipurpose-rtv-silicone-gasket-maker-detail)

 

[SmokeyTheBear]

Ok? mixed reviews... lol

This is the permatex ultra blue product info...

(broken link removed to http://www.permatex.com/products/product-categories/gasketing/gasket-makers/permatex-ultra-blue-multipurpose-rtv-silicone-gasket-maker-detail)

/soap-box = "up on"

Here's the deal the goop meets the temperature requirement for use so it is fine.

The tape doesn't and while it will work as long as the interior joint stays together it will fail if the interior joint opens or the vent is subjected to a creosote fire or the venting becomes so restricted away from joints it is on that the temperature rises above the rating for the tape back at the joint.

Sealants and such have to maintain the joints long enough for the stove's safeties to activate and shut down the stove.

It is never what the temperatures are in normal operation that govern what must be used to meet code and provide a proper and safe installation.

/soap-box = "down from"

 

[PASIEMT]

Thank you smokey, your statements make everything a lot more clear now. For good measure, I think I'll cover those joints with 600* flue tape when it comes in.

 

[Defiant]

Smokey, you should get in the Pope running, Today was a black smoke day at the Vatican.

 

[SmokeyTheBear]

Smokey, you should get in the Pope running, Today was a black smoke day at the Vatican.

Not me.

I saw that it was black smoke, four votes tomorrow..

 

[will711]

Pasiemt . Is your stove working I read the 1st thread about the LBT just wondering if all is good now

 

[PASIEMT]

Yes, it is Will... fired her back up tonight. So far, so good. Before I was smelling a little puff or whiff of smoke every 10-15 minutes or so. Now, after all this goop and awesome discussion/advice shes running just the way you see it in the pics above, not the prettiest exhaust I've ever seen but so far, it's proving to be effective.

Thanks for the concern man!

-MIke

 

[will711]

Yes, it is Will... fired her back up tonight. So far, so good. Before I was smelling a little puff or whiff of smoke every 10-15 minutes or so. Now, after all this goop and awesome discussion/advice shes running just the way you see it in the pics above, not the prettiest exhaust I've ever seen but so far, it's proving to be effective.

Thanks for the concern man!

-MIke

OK cool

 

[HopeItBurns]

I used blue once cause was in my tool box but using copper now because rated a little higher-Temp wise. Just keep using your blue till ya can't get anymore out.