How high above stove should wall protection be?

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I am about to install an older model of Hearth Craft, Spain wood burning stove in a corner of our home. Fortunately or unfortunately we have LOTS of vinyl windows. So I have read where the minimum clearance from a combustible wall is 12" and am planning on using 1/4" wall board mounted at least 1" from the wood paneling walls to protect them. As you can see from the photo, the window sills are at 18" above the 2" pavers and 1/2" cement fiberboard that I will be putting down to protect the floor. The height of the stove, with legs attached is about 33", so my question is how high do the wall boards need to be please? I'm not worried about covering up part of the window as we have 8 windows and 2 glass doors in that room!

Also what should the clearance be from combustible walls (without any shielding) to the 6" stove pipe coming out of top of stove?

We don't use the blinds, but I had to lower them in order to shield out glare and be able to get photo!!

Thanks for your input!

 

[MongoMongoson]

Do you have an owner's manual for that stove? Is it UL listed? Maybe it has a tag on the back giving the clearances. I Googled it, and it looks like an old cast iron Franklin. Is that right?

If so, I would be amazed if the allowable clearance is 12" unless you mean WITH a heat shield in place.

Your allowable clearance is probably 36" to combustibles. When I needed to determine how much heat shield to put in place, I grabbed a yard stick. If I could touch the stove anywhere, and at any angle touch a combustible at the same time, that gave me the answer.

If it is an unlisted stove, you will need something more than 1/2" of cement board to protect the floor.

Are you planning to use double or single wall stove pipe? The clearances depend on the stove pipe you use. If I remember correctly, it is 18" for single wall.

 

[Topcatto]

Thank you for your reply. No, I don't have an owner's manual for it, and I guess it is not UL listed. It has not tag or anything, and the only clue is "Hearth Craft, Spain", but looking at some older posts on this site, people are calling it a Franklin. A couple of comments have made it sound unsafe, so now I am concerned about even installing it. lf it is a safe stove, I planned to install it on 1/2" cement fiber board with 2" pavers on the top of it, and then to place heat shield on the walls behind it for a corner installation. Am I right in that, with the heat shield in place, it can be placed a minimum of 12" from the heat shield, that is set a minimum of 1" in front of the combustible walls?

I was thinking of coming out of stove with single wall pipe for a short run, and then installing a fan in the pipe, and from there going up with double walled pipe.

 

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I don't know how old it is, I bought it used, and it was second hand to that buyer. PHEW! I was getting worried that it was dangerous, being a retired (female) firefighter, I sure don't want to do anything risky.

I was planning on putting down 1/2" cement board, topped with 2" pavers below it, and then I was going to build a heat shield on both walls (corner installation) behind it, I am thinking of using 1/4" cement board, topped with slate tile, and placing this a minimum of 1" in front of the combustible walls that would be behind it. Would all of that allow it to be placed a minimum of 12" from the combustible walls?

 

[Burnin Since 1991]

I am about to install an older model of Hearth Craft, Spain wood burning stove in a corner of our home. Fortunately or unfortunately we have LOTS of vinyl windows. So I have read where the minimum clearance from a combustible wall is 12" and am planning on using 1/4" wall board mounted at least 1" from the wood paneling walls to protect them. As you can see from the photo, the window sills are at 18" above the 2" pavers and 1/2" cement fiberboard that I will be putting down to protect the floor. The height of the stove, with legs attached is about 33", so my question is how high do the wall boards need to be please? I'm not worried about covering up part of the window as we have 8 windows and 2 glass doors in that room!

Also what should the clearance be from combustible walls (without any shielding) to the 6" stove pipe coming out of top of stove?

We don't use the blinds, but I had to lower them in order to shield out glare and be able to get photo!!

Thanks for your input! View attachment 343300View attachment 343301

Good morning,

I was searching for information on our Hearth Craft Spain stove that I am just about to install and I saw this post. What is the problem with this stove? Please advise, thank you! TC

From the other thread

Nothing is really wrong with that stove. It's just not very efficient. It will use a lot of firewood and it requires a larger distance from combustibles. How old is your stove?

Has it been tested/ inspected to ensure it is ok?

Also depends on the expertise of the owner/ user. Depending on th condition of the stove it could require a lot of work to be safe.

It all depends...

Welcome to the forum. Many millions of years of knowledge here that can help you.

You need to sort out all of what @MongoMongoson replied with as that is all very important.

 

[MongoMongoson]

I bet they sold millions of those types of stoves and many people have used them for years without issue. There are better options out there, is all. You just want to make sure you install it safely if you do use it. I certainly don't want to discourage you from burning wood. It is a great way to heat a house!

When it comes to installing an unlisted stove safely, the reference you need is NFPA 211. If you Google that, I believe you will find the NFPA offers free access to it. You might also find an older version in PDF format.

NFPA 211 will tell you all about heat shielding and how to make a safe floor pad. Please check it out. People here can answer specific questions regarding what the code says. Some of it may not make sense the first time you read through it. I know it took me a few times reading through it and getting questions answered. It sounds like you are pretty handy so you might get it on your first read-through.

Please reconsider the fan in the pipe, if by that you mean something like the Magic Heat Reclaimer. It will cool the exhaust gasses coming out of the stove and can turn it into a creosote maker, which can be a real fire hazard. I had a minor chimney fire once and never want to have another one. I also don't want you to have one.

 

[Topcatto]

From the other thread

Nothing is really wrong with that stove. It's just not very efficient. It will use a lot of firewood and it requires a larger distance from combustibles. How old is your stove?

Has it been tested/ inspected to ensure it is ok?

Also depends on the expertise of the owner/ user. Depending on th condition of the stove it could require a lot of work to be safe.

It all depends...

Welcome to the forum. Many millions of years of knowledge here that can help you.

You need to sort out all of what @MongoMongoson replied with as that is all very important.

I bet they sold millions of those types of stoves and many people have used them for years without issue. There are better options out there, is all. You just want to make sure you install it safely if you do use it. I certainly don't want to discourage you from burning wood. It is a great way to heat a house!

When it comes to installing an unlisted stove safely, the reference you need is NFPA 211. If you Google that, I believe you will find the NFPA offers free access to it. You might also find an older version in PDF format.

NFPA 211 will tell you all about heat shielding and how to make a safe floor pad. Please check it out. People here can answer specific questions regarding what the code says. Some of it may not make sense the first time you read through it. I know it took me a few times reading through it and getting questions answered. It sounds like you are pretty handy so you might get it on your first read-through.

Please reconsider the fan in the pipe, if by that you mean something like the Magic Heat Reclaimer. It will cool the exhaust gasses coming out of the stove and can turn it into a creosote maker, which can be a real fire hazard. I had a minor chimney fire once and never want to have another one. I also don't want you to have one.

Thank you so much for all the good info! I'm trying to get into the NFPA 211, but cannot, although I did read through it a couple months ago, but will continue trying to get a copy of it.

I didn't know about the fan in the pipe being an issue, so I'll definitely stay away from that, thank you!

 

[bigealta]

I would scrap that franklin stove. Honestly it's is not much better than a fireplace. Probably one of the worst "woodstoves" you could install.
If price is an issue check marketplace, craigslist etc. for a good woodstove. They are out there if you look and are a bit patient.
You don't want to waste all your time, money, planning, set up etc on this. Get a better stove to start with and you will win in the long run.