All you trainers of hunting dogs I know you put alot of time and energy into training them. I am sure your proud of them. So post pics of your pride and joy hunting dogs. When I was younger I trained Beagles and competition hunted them. I was a certified AKC judge for UBGF Beagle Trials. Then got into English Setter Bird Dogs. Here in Southern Indiana we have Hoosier National Forest home to some good grouse hunting. I had a Ryman Setter and an Old Hemlock Setter the more old fashioned type Grouse hunting English Setters. My best setter I owned was my Ryman Setter. Here is a good picture of a Ryman Setter not my Ryman but this one was the Great Aunt of my Ryman setter and they looked exactly the same you wouldnt be able to tell them apart.