I found the limits of my woodstove this weekend

[EatenByLimestone]

The little century done good, but against st -20 temps and the Lord only knows what the windchill was, it just couldn't cut it. A big part of it was i raised the cabin and that allows more wind under it. A new stove is in the plans and I'm looking at the T5. Are there any similarly jacketed stoves I should be like looking at also?

 

[begreen]

Quad Explorer II, Enviro Boston, Jotul F50.

Of these stoves only the T5 and the Boston have the linked secondary air control.

 

[Simonkenton]

You raised the cabin. I would like to get the details on that.
You have to build a perimeter wall, either framed or of masonry, to enclose that wall and keep that cold north wind off of the underside of your cabin.

 

[drz1050]

You raised the cabin. I would like to get the details on that.
You have to build a perimeter wall, either framed or of masonry, to enclose that wall and keep that cold north wind off of the underside of your cabin.

I grew up on an island.. most of the houses are up on pilings. Some have walls built around the raised portion, the ones that don't insulate the heck out of their floors.

 

[EatenByLimestone]

The Boston, it states a ceramic baffle. Is this the same as the Englander has?


Unfortunately I can't stop the air movement under it. And wouldnt want to. The reason I jacked it up was due to flooding. Here's a pic from 2011. I had 16" of water in it. I lifted it 20". That was the worst flood since '52 when it was built.

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What details would you like about the lift? It was done with a number of 4 ton jacks, 3\4" at a time.

 

[Simonkenton]

Good lord! That is some serious flooding. Is that from the Mohawk River? So you do not want to close off the air movement because it would impair the water next time it floods?

 

[drz1050]

Unfortunately I can't stop the air movement under it. And wouldnt want to. The reason I jacked it up was due to flooding. Here's a pic from 2011. I had 16" of water in it. I lifted it 20". That was the worst flood since '52 when it was built.

Was that the minimum lift the insurance company asked for? It doesn't sound like much at all to me.... most of the houses down in NJ are 8-10 feet in the air... the biggest flood ever was around 5'

 

[SCOTT S.]

I would also look at the Blaze King Ashford, it has exceeded every one of my expectations.

 

[begreen]

The Boston, it states a ceramic baffle. Is this the same as the Englander has?

The Boston uses a different, tougher material. It's C-Cast ceramic, like that used in Osburn stoves.

 

[HisTreeNut]

We pushed our Buck pretty good the last few days as well. We had to run the kerosene heater also but the back side of the house was still pretty chilly. We have lot of single pane windows which we hope to replace this year.
The ole girl did pretty well but the next cold snap, I will have to sort the hardwoods when we bring them in from the stack. Was a little too chilly for the wifey...
That being said, that was some serious water there...the dog didn't seem to mind however.

 

[cptoneleg]

I enjoyed that last cold spell I could run my stove to the max and not overheat the house.

 

[Highbeam]

The little century done good, but against st -20 temps and the Lord only knows what the windchill was, it just couldn't cut it. A big part of it was i raised the cabin and that allows more wind under it. A new stove is in the plans and I'm looking at the T5. Are there any similarly jacketed stoves I should be like looking at also?

Gotta say, if I was putting a non-cat in the house for primary heat it would be a t5 or t6. That SS baffle, welded steel box construction, and long burn time reputation are valuable. If cost is an issue these stoves are available with a couple of other outer shells that are cheaper than the cast alderlea.

 

[begreen]

In our old barn with too much glass even the T6 burning locust would not keep up with those minus temps. Fortunately that is much colder than this area has ever seen. At -15F we probably would be dealing with frozen pipes too. I love New England but don't miss the extreme winters there.

 

[EatenByLimestone]

Wow, lots of replies. I'll try to answer everything.

It's on Schroon Lake. Probably 70 miles North of the Mohawk.

I never told the insurance company about the flood. I'm sure they knew about it, but not from me. Nothing really valuable was harmed. An old dresser was destroyed. The refrigerator is louder than it used to be. The floor eventually flattened back out. The beautiful thing about old cabins is that there isn't anything of real value inside. I chose the highest the water has been in the last 70 or so years and put the floor above it.

Cost is always an issue, if funds are spent on this, they can't be spent on something else (probably the reason why the Century has stuck around so long), but I've had a crush on the Alderlea for years. I've been rehabbing the cabin and it would be nice to have a centerpiece... and break the unwritten cabin rule that everything in it must be used. I didn't know they were available with other shells. I've seen the plain steel plate box, ala Super 27, and the enamel coatings, but assumed that the cast iron was just enamel coated. What other options are there for cladding them? In addition to what you mentioned, I like the "softer" heat reputation also. The room it will be in is 12D by 16W. I'll be using fans to move some of that heat to the back of the cabin which is similarly sized to the front room, but partitioned a bit.

 

[DickRussell]

Matt, a few years back a friend built a new house in a flood zone (across street from ocean), and he had to have the house raised up on stilts. Breakaway walls were installed around the ground level, the idea being that the space under the house would be out of the weather, allowing storage, even parking a car, but a storm surge would take out the walls without taking out the house itself. You probably could do something like that, and it would make the house more comfortable during the bitter cold spells.

 

[EatenByLimestone]

I had a chance to visit the PE and Enviro dealer. I'll have to check out the F50. I'm not sure who the local quad dealer is.

 

[baseroom]

I had a chance to visit the PE and Enviro dealer. I'll have to check out the F50. I'm not sure who the local quad dealer is.

Have a cottage in central On. You made me laugh. We are cut from the same cloth.....Nothing new in the cottage/cabin. I'm in western NY. Schroon lake gets cold

 

[velvetfoot]

What's nice about a stove, as opposed to an insert, is that you just take out the old one and put in the new one.

 

[EatenByLimestone]

Have a cottage in central On. You made me laugh. We are cut from the same cloth.....Nothing new in the cottage/cabin. I'm in western NY. Schroon lake gets cold[
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IIt's pretty funny how it works with those little things. buy new mattresses for the house, the old ones go to the cabin, looking at the replacement costs, the only things of value in it are the stove and refrigerator. maybe 500 each if i bought new? The stove is easily the most expensive thing up there.

Some friends who have a place across the road have a pellet stove which is probably the most expensive thing in theirs also. The weekend i found the limit of my stove they had their burn pot fill up and the fire back up into their hopper. I cant imagine the danger if we hadnt been standing around it when it happened. It was a full hopper.

 

[EatenByLimestone]

Late Friday I drove by the stove shop on my way home. Out front was a big sign stating, "Stove Sale this month". I called them up today and inquired about the T5. It was on "sale". He gave me a meh price which was the cash price when I was in earlier this year. OK I figure, I'm charging this and getting card rewards. So I pulled the trigger and put a deposit down.


Tonight I'm up at the cabin getting it ready for the new stove. I took a pic of the little Century. It hasn't been hooked up since I painted the floor and had to unhook it this spring.

I think thecabin's going to be a bit warmer this winter

 

[EatenByLimestone]

The small table is put up for burning season. I know somebody is going to scream clearance!

 

[velvetfoot]

That's what I like about stoves: change 'em right now. Big deal with the inserts.

 

[EatenByLimestone]

Well, I have to figure out how to get it out of the pickup when I get it, and then up the stairs to the cabin. I should be able to bribe enough guys with pizza and warm, cheap beer!

 

[tarzan]

Well, I have to figure out how to get it out of the pickup when I get it, and then up the stairs to the cabin. I should be able to bribe enough guys with pizza and warm, cheap beer!

Best bet, skimp on the pizza, NOT the beer!

 

[BrotherBart]

RIP lil Century. Ya served well.