IBC Tote Full Of Wood Weight

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unimog1300

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Dec 10, 2018
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Central Illinois
Did a search about this but didn't see anything with weight. Anybody know what the weight of an IBC Tote full of wood weighs? I have 4 filled with Oak that was dead 2 years standing, still 40+% wet, stacked two rows of 16" splits with the gap between the rows filed with splits. Looking for wet and dry weight if anyone knows. Might be looking for a tractor to move them and need to know what weight I'm looking at. The picture is old Oak that sat too long, all burned up now. Thanks

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PJ41

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Oct 25, 2020
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North East CT
Book sez dry live oak is 59 pounds per cubic ft, red oak at 44 pounds per cubic ft. The tote holds about 51 cubic ft, so you are looking at about 3000 pounds for live oak and around 2200 pounds for red oak. Will most likely be less due to the gaps in the splits.

Hope this helps!
 

unimog1300

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Dec 10, 2018
51
Central Illinois
Book sez dry live oak is 59 pounds per cubic ft, red oak at 44 pounds per cubic ft. The tote holds about 51 cubic ft, so you are looking at about 3000 pounds for live oak and around 2200 pounds for red oak. Will most likely be less due to the gaps in the splits.

Hope this helps!
PJ41 thanks for the info. That's what I was looking for.
 

andym

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Feb 6, 2020
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Hicksville, Ohio
When dry it will be significantly less than 3,000 lb. I doubt it would be more than 1500. I've filled them with 20% MC ash and moved them around with a skidsteer rated for only 1,200 lift cap.
 

kennyp2339

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My kioti ck4010 hst will move those totes filled with green oak no problem.
 

SpaceBus

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I just started looking at tractors and am tractor stupid. I know what hydrostatic is but shuttle shift etc not so much
Shuttle shift is an assisted manual transmission. I think he was making the comparison that his 40 hp compact utility tractor is easily capable of lifting a tote of wet oak. That means a tote would have to weigh less than 1,600 lbs when full based on the loader capacity of 1,835 lbs at the pivot pins (the loss being the weight of the forks/bucket/whatever).
 

unimog1300

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Dec 10, 2018
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Central Illinois
Shuttle shift is an assisted manual transmission. I think he was making the comparison that his 40 hp compact utility tractor is easily capable of lifting a tote of wet oak. That means a tote would have to weigh less than 1,600 lbs when full based on the loader capacity of 1,835 lbs at the pivot pins (the loss being the weight of the forks/bucket/whatever).
I understood the part of being able to lift it. My comment about hydrostatic etc was I am not sure what the shuttle shift was our how they work. I have my neighbors JD here now while he's in Yuma for the winter and it's a hydrostatic drive. From what little I know this transmission seems to be nice for doing more precision maneuvering when things are tight or someone is helping hook something up. I've used his tractor for several years to plow snow off his drive while they are in AZ. The 40HP is also what I was wondering about as far as what size tractor was big enough to do the lift I'm looking for.
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SpaceBus

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I understood the part of being able to lift it. My comment about hydrostatic etc was I am not sure what the shuttle shift was our how they work. I have my neighbors JD here now while he's in Yuma for the winter and it's a hydrostatic drive. From what little I know this transmission seems to be nice for doing more precision maneuvering when things are tight or someone is helping hook something up. I've used his tractor for several years to plow snow off his drive while they are in AZ. The 40HP is also what I was wondering about as far as what size tractor was big enough to do the lift I'm looking for.
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What are you goals? I have the next size up DK4710 HST if you have any questions. I used to operate a manual transmission 70 HP mid size Ford and would never go back to full manual. A hydraulic power shift type setup might be ok, but those are found on big machines that favor set wheel speeds for harvesting and stuff like that. Kioti offers a hydraulically assisted manual on their compact tractors, but my dealer was unwilling to get one for me, so I "settled" for the HST, but I have no regrets. Sometimes I wish for more size or power or weight and in a perfect world I would have a mid size tractor for hard work and a subcompact for mowing and other light work.
 

unimog1300

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Dec 10, 2018
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Central Illinois
What are you goals? I have the next size up DK4710 HST if you have any questions. I used to operate a manual transmission 70 HP mid size Ford and would never go back to full manual. A hydraulic power shift type setup might be ok, but those are found on big machines that favor set wheel speeds for harvesting and stuff like that. Kioti offers a hydraulically assisted manual on their compact tractors, but my dealer was unwilling to get one for me, so I "settled" for the HST, but I have no regrets. Sometimes I wish for more size or power or weight and in a perfect world I would have a mid size tractor for hard work and a subcompact for mowing and other light work.
Live on 3.25 acres and looking for a tractor to move logs that are dropped off here from a tree service. Then move IBC totes full of split green wood back to the tree line. It'll have to be able to plow snow, move dirt, and maybe dig out stumps too. Want cab with heat and A/C. I'm guessing 40HP +. Looking for used more than likely. No need to mow, have that covered. We just had an Oak taken down and had to cut it all up in place, no tractor. It worked out fine but would have done it differently if I had a tractor. Been using my neighbors JD in the picture but it gets sketchy lifting logs very big or heavy. I basically just push the logs around and cut them into 16" rds and then lift them with grapple and put them on the splitter. I'm splitting red Elm right now, 30" diameter, and it's 50+% moisture content. It's very heavy and it's noticeable when using this tractor. There's no ballast of any kind, he offered to put something on the back but I didn't think I'd need it. Also no quick attach for bucket, forks, etc. I feel it's too small in the limited time I've been using it.

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SpaceBus

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You won't be digging out stumps with a tractor, it' s not worth the risk of damage to a machine that is not made for that. Stump removal requires a backhoe, excavator, bulldozer, or stump grinder. A big skid steer might do it, but a tractor is not a piece of heavy construction equipment. I think something sized like the Kioti CK4010 or other brand equivalent would serve you well. I don't think you will ever need more than 40 HP on 3.25 acres. We have 25 and my tractor works just fine at 45 HP. You are right on the money about having a quick attach front loader, I couldn't imagine life without it. Something else to consider is hydraulic output for running skid steer attachments. My tractor is 16 GPM so I am able to run a loader mounted hydraulic post hole digger made for a skid steer. Some compact tractors don't have a lot of hydraulic flow.
 

unimog1300

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Dec 10, 2018
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Central Illinois
You won't be digging out stumps with a tractor, it' s not worth the risk of damage to a machine that is not made for that. Stump removal requires a backhoe, excavator, bulldozer, or stump grinder. A big skid steer might do it, but a tractor is not a piece of heavy construction equipment. I think something sized like the Kioti CK4010 or other brand equivalent would serve you well. I don't think you will ever need more than 40 HP on 3.25 acres. We have 25 and my tractor works just fine at 45 HP. You are right on the money about having a quick attach front loader, I couldn't imagine life without it. Something else to consider is hydraulic output for running skid steer attachments. My tractor is 16 GPM so I am able to run a loader mounted hydraulic post hole digger made for a skid steer. Some compact tractors don't have a lot of hydraulic flow.
SpaceBus thx for the info. I'll be sure to keep the GPM on my list to look for. We are not necessarily staying put in Illinois, always looking to maybe make the move out of here to a better run state. Looking towards Missouri for what we like and would get a minimum of 40 acres there. Land is still considerably cheaper there compared to here. Illinois is circling the drain and has been for a while now. Don't really ever see it getting better IMHO.
 

SpaceBus

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SpaceBus thx for the info. I'll be sure to keep the GPM on my list to look for. We are not necessarily staying put in Illinois, always looking to maybe make the move out of here to a better run state. Looking towards Missouri for what we like and would get a minimum of 40 acres there. Land is still considerably cheaper there compared to here. Illinois is circling the drain and has been for a while now. Don't really ever see it getting better IMHO.
It's the same everywhere, but I understand what you mean. I have seen plenty of folks moving to the Ozarks area. Sometimes I wish we had more than 25 acres, but I'm hoping to buy my older neighbors adjacent 85 acres when they are ready to sell.
 

unimog1300

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Dec 10, 2018
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Central Illinois
It's the same everywhere, but I understand what you mean. I have seen plenty of folks moving to the Ozarks area. Sometimes I wish we had more than 25 acres, but I'm hoping to buy my older neighbors adjacent 85 acres when they are ready to sell.
That's where we would go more than likely. We have been going to Lake of The Ozarks for 20+ years. We're surrounded by farm fields where I live in Central Illinois. It's going for $10K+ per acre. Out of our price range for sure. Timber ground isn't much better since we grow big deere around here. Lots of strip mine ground West of here bought up by duck clubs and rich pro athletes. That old saying goes "they aren't making anymore ground".