I'm getting estimates for my chimney setup from various outlets and the price for double wall stove pipe is all over the board. No brand names are ever given other than basic adjustable "double wall pipe". Is one to assume its from the same manufacturer as the class A such as Excel, DuraTech, etc?
Is all double wall 6" stove pipe equal?
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I would ask what brand they propose in their estimate for the stove pipe.
It's good you are going double wall.
Duravent (brand) DVL ("model", i.e. double wall stove pipe) is a good choice. Selkirk is good too.
There may be others too. I am not knowledgeable enough. @bholler is.
Bottomline, ask what brand they propose in their estimate, so you can ask here.
It's good you are going double wall.
Duravent (brand) DVL ("model", i.e. double wall stove pipe) is a good choice. Selkirk is good too.
There may be others too. I am not knowledgeable enough. @bholler is.
Bottomline, ask what brand they propose in their estimate, so you can ask here.
I’m pretty sure I will be using Excel (ICC) products. It looks like quality stuff and the ceiling support box allows for 1 inch of clearance with class A pipe which will help my install. Their price for a 42-68 is a tad more than $200. The local fireplace store wants Over $400 for the same pipe using Duravent
Do you prefer one over the other for the stove pipe, icc vs dvl? And do you know if they are compatible with chimney from different brands?
Wouldn't you need stove pipe of a brand matching the support box and chimney pipe for proper connection?
I.e. have a system of one brand, so ensure compatibility (and thus safety)?
I.e. have a system of one brand, so ensure compatibility (and thus safety)?
The chimney manufacturer that I am getting installed - jeremias, does not make stove pipe. Its my understanding that it doesnt matter, it should all be compatible.
Burnin Since 1991
Minister of Fire
different brands of stove pipe and chimney pipe etc are 100% NOT COMPATIBLE
Well what are you supposed to do when a chimney manufacturer doesn't make stove pipe
Why not? Jeremias is a chimney pipe manufacturer and they dont even make stove pipe, so you have to use a different manufacturers stove pipe
The I'd ask them what brands stove pipe mate with their chimney support boxes. (Or what brands support boxes mate with their class A)
(Double wall) Stove pipe connections are not all the same.
(Double wall) Stove pipe connections are not all the same.
Yes you can absolutely mix stove pipe and chimney pipe brands
Burnin Since 1991
Minister of Fire
well, I guess I stand corrected.
My original stove company apparently steered me wrong. And others agreed with that belief.
My original stove company apparently steered me wrong. And others agreed with that belief.
I’m just running across this thread I was the OP, of a few yrs ago. I went with ICC pipe for the entire install. I will say I’m not happy with the double wall pipe inside my home. The inner pipe isn’t centered within the outer pipe on the end that fits over the stoves top collar. Instead of having an even gap between the two pipes, one side is smaller and the other bigger. What this does is makes the double wall fit so tight around the collar of the stove, it’s impossible to slide the bottom pipe up like it’s designed to do. To clean the flu, I have to slide the top pipe down instead. Then in order to clean the bottom section of the double wall, I have to physically tip my 400lb stove forward while my wife removes the top sliding section off of the bottom pipe. From there I can wiggle the bottom pipe back and forth enough to free it from the stove. Then to reinstall the pipe, once again I have to tip the stove forward far enough to slide the top pipe back over the bottom 3 foot section once again.
How do I know this is the fault of pipe? When I bought the stove it was a floor display model connected to a working ICC chimney. The salesman simply slid the bottom pipe upwards so they could palletize the stove to load onto my pickup.
Dang, that is super annoying, especially considering how important frequent chimney sweeps are. It seems like you got a defective icc stove pipe, is that the case or are you saying its just a defective in their design? I'm thinking the former because the pipe at the store didn't have that issue? I was leaning toward getting the icc pipe because I've heard it mentioned as a high quality brand on this forum and also I think the matte black color is going to be a better match to the stove than the shinnier black of other pipes.
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I wouldn’t be hesitant to go with ICC. Maybe the lesson here is to carefully look over the double wall pipe. Especially the bottom piece to be sure the gap is equal all around. Or better slip it over your stove before installing it permanently like I did. When I first installed it I knew it was snug. But it wasn’t until after the season when I did my first cleaning I realized I couldn’t slide it up. By that time I’m sure any warranty was over. Not to mention I bought the pipe from a dealer 2 hours away during COVID, when things were messed up everywhere.
Do you find that the flat black shows imperfections like fingerprints a lot? Looking through pictures it seems that way, compared to the shinier pipe, but wondering how your experience has been. I prefer flat black because I think it matches the stove better, but my ocd would kill me if it shows imperfections more than the glossier.
Thanks for the tip! I will check that out when I go purchase it. Do you like the flat black finish on the icc pipe? Does it show fingerprints and other imperfections easily?
The color looks fine, as expected. My stove is also black so they blend together well. As far as fingerprints, it isn’t an issue. Even after removing the pipes for cleaning I can’t recall seeing any. Other than the issue I wrote about, everything is working well. The ceiling box has smaller footprint than other brands because it only needs 1” of clearance, while others need two inches. The class A can be a bit frustrating to put together. The sections screw together rather than twist lock like others. Getting the sections tight is challenging because of the insulation, it needs to be squished down, then screwed. If the per drilled holes don’t line up, don’t worry, just made your own hole with the screw.
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