Il read it tonight, looks interesting. Off to work!
Wow and i thought i was a pessimist ,alarming is all that come so mind. Been reading about the permafrost thing for awhile.Its been bubbling up in various places for years. Can get a whole lot worse quickly.
Woody, while I agree with a lot of your points in this issue, calling people with opposing views on this issue traitors is not productive and just makes progress that much harder.
The gridlock is intentional as is the divisiveness. Keeps the masses busy while the country gets looted. You are right. The effort to retool America and the world would mean massive investment and productivity. An economy based on this premise could be very promising.Its not about politics ,most politicians cant see past their current term. We have a system of gridlock that seems to be getting worse. I think a change to a renewable carbonless economy would outstrip the computer in job creation and economic opportunity. A few smart folks with money will see it as a good investment.
Fwiw, in my 40 years I've seen drastic improvements in the environment.
Locally a lot has improved also, but we are talking large, global systems here. It's like comparing local weather to global climate. The big picture is what is important. The planet's health is declining, rapidly. There are many warning signs. When the permafrost melts a massive climate feedback loop is amplified. Giant ocean systems like the great barrier reef are dying. The planetary species extinction rate is high and accelerating due to climate change. These are hard to ignore facts.Fwiw, in my 40 years I've seen drastic improvements in the environment.
DId anyone actually read the article?
yep, loved the beginning with the false flood? end of article, I recently found. two years old but fits imho.
I don't think our current capitalist economic model is going to work in the age of climate change. Current capitalism requires permanent growth - make more, sell more - have more people to make more and sell more. You can't eat, live or reproduce if you don't contribute to the current economic system. China and India have huge populations - that is their human capital - that creates wealth to the top. It is all geared to grow. Unfortunately changing this system is not going to happen anytime soon. It will require some serious pain to get people to realize it's not working and then it is not guaranteed that the correct choices will be made after. I suspect society will break into groups of winners and losers. Losers die and winners live a very hot life, struggling to keep the human race alive.
Classic cherry picking of single erroneous assumptions to make a point. I note that in that screed the author makes his own failed prediction:
"Germany is about to be crushed by the massive cost of its renewable energy boondoggle."
The difference from these single person predictions that he dug through and amped up way beyond their original importance is that the world's main body and vast majority of climate scientists are now expressing a common believe and theory of climate change. This is based on much more sophisticated science and magnitudes greater input and climate data than was capable of being processed even 20 years ago. To base his claims on four persons that got their predictions wrong is folly. For sure some earlier predictions have been off by the date, but that doesn't change the trends. Also, he makes a silly and very easy claim that I can make too. "Personally, I’m on record predicting another ice age—sometime in the next 10,000 years or so" Fine, I'll go on record and say that he is right, I agree. I'll also say that in 10000 years the poles will have reversed and man will be gone. Come back in 10,000 yrs. and tell me if I'm wrong.
It would be one thing if the opposing side expressed concern about the planet and found it worth studying more in depth. But now it is all attack journalism (and I use that word very loosely) with the sole goal of discrediting that which they oppose. This does not help at all. Yes, there are alarmists and yes they may have a cloudier crystal ball than some, but for Tracnski to say that those alarms about the effects of DDT or acid rain were false and the outcomes were none existent is not only wrong, ignores that those alarms stopped significant environmental harm and that what he is observing from this lofty perch are the benefits of acid rain reduction and the return of many species that were on the brink of extinction. He also ignores the fact that DDT failed due to overuse, insects developing resistance, and the fact that DDT was getting stored and accumulating in the fats of animals including humans. FWIW, malaria is virtually non-existent now in America and DDT is still used carefully in some places of the world for malarial control as a last resort.
So yeah, a few people got some stuff wrong, that's always the case, regardless of one's politics. The point of science is not to be perfect, but to be self-correcting. As we get more data and input it appears that the body of serious climate scientist and environmentalists on the whole are doing a decent job. Naysayers and challenges are good, but when they come from industry pundits trying to obscure, deflect or distract for profit, the result often isn't good and certainly not helpful.
That simply isn't so with modern 1/2T pickups. Friend's ecoboost Ford drops down to 12mpg, climbing up the grade to Steven's Pass at 4000 ft and quickly jumps up to 25+ heading down the other side, with camper. Minor inclines have little effect. A strong headwind or driving over 65mph has a greater effect.anything like a camper you're lucky to get 2-5 miles/gallon going up any incline
You you are saying we can dump in the ocean with no problems endlessly it will just be diluted. You do realize how crazy that is right.
The ocean is BIG ,and the problem is BIG ,like the size of texas. One of the many floating garbage areas is north of hawaii is reported to be the size of texas. Imagine how much sank to the bottom!Pretty much. If you don't know any better, you think the ocean is small and that my bottle cap will make a big difference when it falls overboard.
What do you mean by growth? Markets and products are constantly dynamic. All are in a state of rising and falling all at the same time.
Capitalism is all about supply and demand. Demand creates markets. Companies meet those demands with products. People need things and are willing to work for them to keep the fruits of labor.
Capitalism has made our country rise above the rest....I can get an education, support a family, have free time, work in an air conditioned office and challenge my mind. I'm not about to throw that out because someone thinks something else might be better.
What is the alternative?