My yellow saw with a bigger bar

[Danno77]

the PM610 that I bought from Scotty has quickly become my go-to saw. I still love my 028, it revs up faster and is lighter, but isn't as powerful and I still need to fix the chain brake on it.

Well, I have run into a couple of big jobs that need a bigger bar. OK, let me clarify. I have some bigger wood that would be easier to cut if I don't have to cut from both sides, and I also had a couple of bucks to blow.

The package arrived in the mail today.

28" with a skip (chisel, of course) chain on it.

I'm not going to be setting any cutting records with this, but I feel that it has the gumption to pull it and per a couple of messages, I think Scotty agrees. If nothing else, it looks stinking cool.

Enjoy and discuss:

 

[BrotherBart]

I cut for years with my Pro Mac 610. It was the one that opened up my left leg to the bone but that wasn't the saws fault. Loved that hoss no matter what anybody says. It had a bucket load of torque. Watch the fuel line. Mine popped the line in the woods and set the saw and my shirt on fire. After I put myself out I stood behind a big tree and watched the PM melt down after the fuel burning lit off the oil tank and the aluminum. Yes I discovered that aluminum can burn. Crazy blue flame. Saw ended up a puddle with a bar attached.

I miss the thing.

PS: I have the manual if ya want it.

 

[Danno77]

I might take you up on that.

 

[BrotherBart]

Be sure you run that pup with 32:1. 50:1 wasn't part of the English language back in those days.'

 

[Danno77]

I do 40:1 in it and have faith that today's synthetic oils are better than the Dino stuff from back in the day. I was using 25:1 with regular mix (non-synthetic) in my older saws (like the 028), but after using the 40:1 with synthetic and monitoring performance and wear I've decided that I feel well within a safe range that also provides good performance.

 

[nate379]

My Dad used one of those from the early 80s to present. Cut 3-4 cords a year with it. It's a heavy beast compared to modern saws and fairly low RPMS but was a great saw back in it's day.

 

[Danno77]

When you are buff like me the weight doesn't matter, it would be like using a shorter pencil because it weighs less.

 

[nate379]

Ahahahahha! So a Stihl 880 is a perfect limbing saw too right? I like your thinking!

 

[Danno77]

One in each hand...

 

[Thistle]

Used a PM610 that I bought new in '92 with 24" bar as first milling saw.Plenty of power to pull that when crosscutting,but milling anything over 20" diameter was a real chore.Relegated it to 2nd bucking saw in early '94,used it until spring 2000.After that it sat under bench in parents garage until Mar. 2011.11 yrs with empty gas tank,added fresh mix,it was screaming after 5 pulls.Sold the saw,NOS 20" bar & NOS air filter with owners manual on Ebay a few days later.

Heavy,always started 2-3 pulls cold (was a 30 min wait after refueling or when hot) but was a real workhorse.

I miss the old beast.....Gonna grab another one of these days.

Danno, you'll really like that 28" bar/skip tooth combo I'm guessing.Back in the day it was common to see those on those on 610's,700's & 800/850 models.Its what I use on my big Huskys most of the time.

 

[ScotO]

I don't know how I missed this thread back in May, just saw Thistle looking at it so I wanted to check it out.....
That 28" bar should be just fine on that saw. Danno and I talked via convo the other day and he is out in Colorado cutting a lot of wood with the old Mac 610. They are, for sure, beasts of a saw, for the size and CC. I love the torque that the old horizontal-cylinder saws produced....one of the big reasons my old Stihl 041AV Super and the ported 051AV are still my go-to saws almost every job I do.....

BTW Danno, that saw does look BADASS with that 28" dragonslayer on it!

 

[Danno77]

Cut like a dream with that bar and chain. I even made some noodles with it and cut through these logs like butter and left me a couple of inches by the powerhead to help with clearing the noodles. Completely buried in hickory I'm going to have to let the weight of the saw carry it through, it would be just too much to bear down like that. The balance of this saw with this bar is wonderful, too.

Also, did I mention the AV system on this? I sawed for hours over two days with no I'll effects. My hands usually tingle with that much sawing on the 028. Just amazing for a saw of this vintage.

It has to say something about this saw to know that I brought it up into the mountains of Colorado from Illinois. I didn't even touch my father-in-law's MS290, or my uncle's (his neighbor) MS361 and the only other saw that got used was his new MS180, which performed better than I expected!

His new 22-ton Speeco also performed very well.