Does anyone know what actually happened? I see the articles say it was ashes, but where were the ashes placed and in what kind of container?
PLEASE be careful w/ your ashes (5 die from Yule log)
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Do an search for “ashes†– a lot folks here have a lot good ideas.
I one time I cleaned the vacuum to clean the ashes thinking they were cold and the paper bag in the vacuum stared smoking. I found it before it out of control and I see how it can go fast and it can get out of control.
Now, I deal with the ashes two ways. (1) I take my embers straight from the insert and then to a metal pail and I go to my pond and the hot or cold ashes get dumped right now to the pond, in the water. (2) I take my embers straight from the insert and then to a metal pail then use the hose to fill the pail with the ashes stirring the ashes in the water and I wait for at least three hours to dump the mess in the yard.
Robert
I one time I cleaned the vacuum to clean the ashes thinking they were cold and the paper bag in the vacuum stared smoking. I found it before it out of control and I see how it can go fast and it can get out of control.
Now, I deal with the ashes two ways. (1) I take my embers straight from the insert and then to a metal pail and I go to my pond and the hot or cold ashes get dumped right now to the pond, in the water. (2) I take my embers straight from the insert and then to a metal pail then use the hose to fill the pail with the ashes stirring the ashes in the water and I wait for at least three hours to dump the mess in the yard.
Robert
According to the press conference....the Embers were placed in some sort of bag, and left in a mudroom that was attached to the back of the houseWood Duck said:
From one read it sounds like the home did not have any working smoke detectors . . . and yeah . . . definitely an improper disposal of ash . . . very tragic.
Here's another one from our local paper - hot ashes in a paper bag placed on wooden steps:
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/...hives/UVM-basketball-coach-alerted-house-fire
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/...hives/UVM-basketball-coach-alerted-house-fire
Happens a lot when remodeling the dust causes false alarms and some communities charge for any other false alarms after the original one. So remodelers disconnect them. Sounds like the were not even permitted to live there but did so anyway. High price to pay. Be safe.
Ed
Ed
http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/new...ace-caused-Greenwich-mansion-fire-2608996.php
PLEASE be careful with your ashes!
PLEASE be careful with your ashes!
TWO incidents of ashes being placed in cardboard boxes. WTH are people thinking or NOT thinking?
I have a water hose attached to the Hot Water Tank, that is Pretty Neat Idea
Lost a Family here yrs ago and Knew the house was on fire.....But they thot should get dressed first and found them clothes half on....Everything in Your House is Toxic when it Burns, the Gasses is what Kills, You can Not Breath that Gas, I be;live it is said You have Maybe a Minute to get out, that is the reason the Fire mite Not get You But You Cannot Breath they Gas from your foam couch , the gas from paneling, or flooring or ceiling, You have to get out if You cannot knock the oxygen out of the fire and that takes a lot of preparation and timing, which usaully dont have!
Lost a Family here yrs ago and Knew the house was on fire.....But they thot should get dressed first and found them clothes half on....Everything in Your House is Toxic when it Burns, the Gasses is what Kills, You can Not Breath that Gas, I be;live it is said You have Maybe a Minute to get out, that is the reason the Fire mite Not get You But You Cannot Breath they Gas from your foam couch , the gas from paneling, or flooring or ceiling, You have to get out if You cannot knock the oxygen out of the fire and that takes a lot of preparation and timing, which usaully dont have!
Even $$$$ can't buy common sense! Yes the gasses from fire are very toxic. Now they are finding more often it is the cyanide, yup that cyanide, created by burning foam, plastics and wool carpets that may be killing at least as many victims as Co. Key is to get everyone out, fast, and stay out.Be safe.
Ed
Ed
This just happened again in Nevada. It destroyed 26 homes. Treat all ashes as hot!
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/21/us-fire-nevada-idUSTRE80I2IM20120121
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/21/us-fire-nevada-idUSTRE80I2IM20120121
Just lost a woman in Westfield, Ma. Co poisoning, no working Co detectors. Guess it's the old "it will never happen to me" syndrom. Be safe, dead is forever.
Ed
Ed
During the recent (and still current for some) ice storm outages we are hearing many reports of fools that are bringing their outdoor bar-b-ques inside and filling the house with CO from the burning charcoal. DON'T DO THIS.
BeGreen said:
BG you can't fix stupid! Every bag of charcoal has warnings about this yet people are so stupid they do it anyways!
Ray
I'd like to ask the resident firefighters here (and anyone else that has an opinion) about smoke alarm preference: hard wired or battery? My preference is the hard wired, but only for convenience.
Realstone said:
Hardwired are superior and they also have a battery backup. The big advantage of hardwired is they all go off if smoke is detected where battery only is local..
Ray
I've got three, one on each level. you're right, that is an excellent feature. Mine don't have battery back up, but I'd imagine that a fire during a power outage is a rare occurrence.raybonz said:
Realstone said:
Hmm I disagree on that.. Many fires occur when there is a power outage due to people improvising on cooking, lighting and heating methods.. You have old smokes as battery backup has been required for a long time.. Smokes should be replaced periodically (5 or 10 years?).. The battery backup gives local smoke detection only but better than nothing..
Ray
Realstone said:
I know a family who, while sound asleep in the wee hours, experienced a fire in a basically inaccessible spot in the structure of their brand new home that effectively severed both their power and their landline phone. Battery backups in their hard-wired smoke alarms were the only things that alerted them to what was going on. They got the young kids out of the house and used a cell phone to call it in. Family's fine, house was fixed. Scary stuff...saved by a little 9v. battery. I'm glad all my wired alarms have battery backup. Rick
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