Shop stove advice

Ggg3988

New Member
May 20, 2020
4
Olympia Washington
I need some opinions please
Looking for a new wood stove for my shop. Location is Olympia Washington. We get cold in the winter. Shop size is 34’x40’x 24’ tall. Stove will go close to center line. I am being told to go double wall pipe to help the draft work correctly???
I want a stove that I can start in the morning and get heat quickly. Not concerned about long burn times. Will probably let go out at night and restart in the morning. Not to excited about catalytic parts. It doesn’t need to be petty. Just work well and last.
Thanks Gary
 

bholler

Chimney sweep
Staff member
Jan 14, 2014
21,567
central pa
I need some opinions please
Looking for a new wood stove for my shop. Location is Olympia Washington. We get cold in the winter. Shop size is 34’x40’x 24’ tall. Stove will go close to center line. I am being told to go double wall pipe to help the draft work correctly???
I want a stove that I can start in the morning and get heat quickly. Not concerned about long burn times. Will probably let go out at night and restart in the morning. Not to excited about catalytic parts. It doesn’t need to be petty. Just work well and last.
Thanks Gary
What is the shop used for?
 

begreen

Mooderator
Staff member
Nov 18, 2005
82,967
South Puget Sound, WA
The high ceiling will be the issue. This is like the volume of a 4000 sq ft house with 8' ceilings. That and the requirement for quick warmup is furnace territory. Is the shop well insulated?
 

Ggg3988

New Member
May 20, 2020
4
Olympia Washington
The high ceiling will be the issue. This is like the volume of a 4000 sq ft house with 8' ceilings. That and the requirement for quick warmup is furnace territory. Is the shop well insulated?
Will be metal fab and hang out area. Insulation is new but minimal. 3-12’x15’ uninsulated roll up doors. If I can get it up to 60° I will be happy.
 

bholler

Chimney sweep
Staff member
Jan 14, 2014
21,567
central pa
Will be metal fab and hang out area. Insulation is new but minimal. 3-12’x15’ uninsulated roll up doors. If I can get it up to 60° I will be happy.
Be aware it is against code in the US to have a solid fuel burning appliance in any garage or space where gasoline or other flamable vapors are present. Many still do it but be aware it can easily lead to an insurance claim being denied if you ever needed it.
 

Geoff C

Member
Oct 29, 2011
103
PA
I know it’s not politically correct but I’d go for a Big Moe or Grandpa Bear or Alaska Kodiak. Big old heating monsters.
 

bholler

Chimney sweep
Staff member
Jan 14, 2014
21,567
central pa
I know it’s not politically correct but I’d go for a Big Moe or Grandpa Bear or Alaska Kodiak. Big old heating monsters.
I don't believe that is an option for them in Washington stop pulling move back over. Otherwise yes they make great shop heaters.
 

xman23

Minister of Fire
Oct 7, 2008
2,088
Lackawaxen PA
If your heating the space, insulation pays for itself in a short time. That's a lot of space for a stove to raise the temp after a cold night. Are you planing on another heating system?
 

Highbeam

Minister of Fire
Dec 28, 2006
17,308
Mt. Rainier Foothills, WA
I’m just north if you in east pierce county. I got a permit for my shop stove and they made me raise it 18” off the slab floor.

I’ve been using my shop stove for over 7 years in my 30x60x14 that is insulated well but has 3 12x12 doors. It’s burning right now to keep the shop warm enough for fermentation.

Your stove will never be too big. You could burn 3 stoves and never get too hot! It doesn’t matter where you put the stove. Put it closest to where you will be Standing or sitting for that radiant heat. 24’ is extremely tall.

I have single wall pipe now and it works fine. No creosote issues because like you will, I run the stove hot all the time. Get the biggest stove you can that uses a 6” chimney.

For low cost, durable, non catalytic stoves I would be looking at the Drolet line today. I have been very happy with my 700$ Englander 30nc from Home Depot but I don’t know if they are still available. Seriously, i run this thing hard. From 50 to 700 in less than 30 minutes and then reload every few hours to try and keep it at 700.

It’s really really nice to be in the shop around a stove. My shop has radiant hot water heating tubes in the slab so a boiler would be better but at 15,000 dollars, the woodstove is fine! Lots of parties out in the shop with this stove ripping hot, watching football, you get it I’m sure.
 

Highbeam

Minister of Fire
Dec 28, 2006
17,308
Mt. Rainier Foothills, WA
I don't believe that is an option for them in Washington stop pulling move back over. Otherwise yes they make great shop heaters.
Right, you can’t buy, sell, install, or even give away an uncertified wood stove. Most, if not all, wood furnaces are also too dirty for our state. The Kuuma claims to be clean enough but is not on the approved list. Lots of stoves are legal in Washington though.
 

bholler

Chimney sweep
Staff member
Jan 14, 2014
21,567
central pa
Right, you can’t buy, sell, install, or even give away an uncertified wood stove. Most, if not all, wood furnaces are also too dirty for our state. The Kuuma claims to be clean enough but is not on the approved list. Lots of stoves are legal in Washington though.
That is what I thought thankyou for confirming
 

Ggg3988

New Member
May 20, 2020
4
Olympia Washington
I’m just north if you in east pierce county. I got a permit for my shop stove and they made me raise it 18” off the slab floor.

I’ve been using my shop stove for over 7 years in my 30x60x14 that is insulated well but has 3 12x12 doors. It’s burning right now to keep the shop warm enough for fermentation.

Your stove will never be too big. You could burn 3 stoves and never get too hot! It doesn’t matter where you put the stove. Put it closest to where you will be Standing or sitting for that radiant heat. 24’ is extremely tall.

I have single wall pipe now and it works fine. No creosote issues because like you will, I run the stove hot all the time. Get the biggest stove you can that uses a 6” chimney.

For low cost, durable, non catalytic stoves I would be looking at the Drolet line today. I have been very happy with my 700$ Englander nc30 from Home Depot but I don’t know if they are still available. Seriously, i run this thing hard. From 50 to 700 in less than 30 minutes and then reload every few hours to try and keep it at 700.

It’s really really nice to be in the shop around a stove. My shop has radiant hot water heating tubes in the slab so a boiler would be better but at 15,000 dollars, the woodstove is fine! Lots of parties out in the shop with this stove ripping hot, watching football, you get it I’m sure.
I have been told that I might need to raise it 18” also. The shop I’m in now 50’x40’. I’ve been heating with wood for 5 years. Show up in the morning at 6:30am. 38°. Start a overhead propane radiant heater. Start the wood stove. 1/2 hr. Latter temp. Is 58°. Shut down propane and go all day with wood. Might need to go this route.
Looking for advice on best stove to start cold and burn hot to bring temperatures up
 

bholler

Chimney sweep
Staff member
Jan 14, 2014
21,567
central pa
I have been told that I might need to raise it 18” also. The shop I’m in now 50’x40’. I’ve been heating with wood for 5 years. Show up in the morning at 6:30am. 38°. Start a overhead propane radiant heater. Start the wood stove. 1/2 hr. Latter temp. Is 58°. Shut down propane and go all day with wood. Might need to go this route.
Looking for advice on best stove to start cold and burn hot to bring temperatures up
The best stove will be the biggest and simplest design you can buy.

And the 18" raised thing is Canadian code. Which makes much more sense to me. But it is not in us codes at all.
 

MTY

Feeling the Heat
Jan 9, 2019
348
Idaho
I will most likely catch heck for this, but many a farmer has heated with a double barrel stove. You could smuggle a kit into WA pretty easily.