While running the stove tonight(Country Hearth 2000) i happened to put my hand on the flue pipe above the stove and was surprised that it was cool enough that i could keep my hand there indefinitely.So the pipe must have been what,150 Deg? I glanced at the stove top temp gauge and it read 400F. I will be proceeding to check my other stoves to see if i can hold onto the flue pipe with a 400 Deg stove top temp. Next up will be the englander NC-30.