Agreed, I took the stand off of mine. As my skill improves I find myself using the stand less and less often. Usually I can find a low spot or just roll the log down an incline. It's even easier if your logs are set up on sleepers. Then you can cut half way, roll the log, and finish your cuts.On the bigger stuff, there always seems to be a knot or divit to get the hook to bite into. Just need to find it. Use their max log size only as reference. 4ft handle has been adequate here. The size is comfortable for handling and carrying, and will roll large or small. This is one of those things I regret having if I forget to bring it along. But I don't have the stand for it. Less is more sometimes. I've found it easy enough to just cut most of the way through, roll a section, then snip the remainder. That way too I get to see the underside. Sometimes dirt clings and needs removing before I'll send a chain through it.