stove installation in my workshop

[bhd21478]

I have a 1500 sq ft steel building workshop. Its well insulated and has three garage doors that are insulated. I have two 240 volt baseboard heaters on each end of the shop. I do various projects out of my shop and that will only continue as I get older. The heaters work well but take many hrs to really heat it up much and were installed just to maintain a low temp to keep the boat and other toys from freezing. I heat with would and have a jotul 450 and an outdoor wood boiler. I live on 25 acres at which 16 is wooded. I have access to tons of wood. I want to place a freestanding stove or pedatal type stove in my shop. My question is do I have to use the expensive double walled pipe. I would have several stack placement options. I could go straight out the roof. I could go out a window and up the side of the shop. Well I basically have three sensible options. One is less invasive without having to cut a hole in my roof. One other option is to go up about 13 ft and out the side of the building then up the side of the garage. I have read that double walled pipe is needed for going through the window or wall and up along the shed. My big question is it mandatory for inside the shop. What are the suggestions. I have called my insurance agent about this as well. They said just follow protocols for home installation so coverage isnt voided.

 

[BrotherBart]

You can use single wall pipe inside the building envelope but the minute you penetrate a ceiling or roof you have to use stainless steel class a chimney pipe from there to the sky.

Go straight up. Much better for chimney draft and cleaning. And uses less pipe and no harder to seal at the exit point than through a wall. And don't even think about going through a window.

 

[fossil]

First, check the local code requirements...you may need to elevate the stove up 16" or so off the floor, at the very least. Second, if I were doing it, I'd most definitely go straight up through the roof. Single wall stove pipe from the stove flue collar to the ceiling transition, then Class A chimney to daylight. How much chimney depends on placement in accordance with the rule that says the chimney must extend at least 3 feet above the point at which it penetrates, and at least 2 feet above any portion of the structure within ten feet horizontally. Thoughtful placement of the appliance in the shop will minimize the hassle of meeting the requirements of the 3-2-10 rule. The roof penetration (as well of the rest of the installation) can be cleanly and easily done with available components from a number of manufacturers. Going straight up and out will result in a lower cost system which is easier to maintain (sweep) than going out the wall and up. Rick

 

[fossil]

Bart's always quicker on the draw and less verbose than I.

 

[Rossco]

Yeah good place for it.

Lift it so the door opening is 18" from the ground.

The stove instructions should give you all the guidance.

I would use DWP if the clearance is tight. The extra cash is worth it IMO.

Plenty here use SWP with great success and good for them.

 

[bhd21478]

Thanks guys for the great information. I found a pedastal drolet on craigslist for around 350. If I was going to do this project I wanted it to be under a certain price, otherwise it just didnt make financial sense. My boiler is 200 ft from it and our driveway is asphalt. I would have to cut the asphalt and run 200 ft of thermopex. I was hoping to do this project for 500-700 bucks. I think you guys gave me the obvious choice of up and out. Is their some type of building plan for this type of design. Im guessing I would have to frame some type of box for the pipe to pass through the roof. I have an excellent local company that could give suggestions as well. but thanks so much

 

[Jags]

Im guessing I would have to frame some type of box for the pipe to pass through the roof.

Yes - there is a very specific (by MFG) ceiling box for this application.

 

[bhd21478]

I just wanted to post that I think I found a good deal. I found a yr old englander pedastal stove and the stack to go with it for 385. THe stack is 6 ft of single walled pipe and there is 4 ft of double walled stainless pipe and a spark arrester. I thought it was a good deal. He wanted 450 but negotiated to 385. Its suppose to heat 1500 sq ft. What does everyone think of engladers. thanks.

 

[Rossco]

Good. I just recently sold an Englander NC13. I replaced it with my former house stove. The only reason I sold it.

Worked ok.

 

[Jags]

The Englanders are fine wood stoves. I personally consider them a utilitarian stove which sounds perfect for your application. What model did you get? There is a large difference from the NC13 to the NC30. At 1500 sqft it sounds like you got the nc13.