Stove recommendation's. Help me find a nice stove./

[WarHorse]

I'm on the hunt for a new wood burning stove with a 2.5 cubic foot firebox up to 3.5 cubic foot firebox. Steel or Cast Iron. 6 or 8 inch flue size. Only interested in a Non Cat model. What say the people?????????

 

[begreen]

asked and answered, no? https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/86817/

 

[HotCoals]

Do you have a chimney now?
Why not cat?

 

[WarHorse]

asked and answered, no? https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/86817/

No, I don't think so. I'm still looking for something else.

 

[WarHorse]

Do you have a chimney now?
Why not cat?

lol, no offense to the CAT folks. I just don't want a CAT Stove. Yes, I have a 8" chimney now.

 

[begreen]

It sounds like the Englander was a top contender based on the other thread. If so, there may be some great sales coming up shortly at HD.

 

[webby3650]

You want a lotta stove, but no cat? A modern cat stove couldn't be more simple. The cat is made by an outside company, so no need to get one from the stove manufacturer. They last many years and only cost a few hundred bucks, I guarantee you will make that money back in the reduced wood consumption. Non-cat stoves will need repair/maintenance after many years as well and it's gonna be a whole lot more expensive than a cat. They both have good qualities, just don't be afraid to look into cat stoves.

 

[certified106]

Look into the Pacific Energy Alderlea T6 and the Summit I have been pleased with myT6 and it has been very easy to burn and mild mannered when I didn't need much heat.

 

[Treacherous]

Non-cat stoves will need repair/maintenance after many years as well and it's gonna be a whole lot more expensive than a cat.

Somehow I don't think the air tubes are more expensive than a replacement cat.

 

[WarHorse]

It sounds like the Englander was a top contender based on the other thread. If so, there may be some great sales coming up shortly at HD.

Yes, It sounds like an Englander would be a great stove. BUT.....I called the company that would be installing my new stove to enquire about clearances, and they said there are no close clearance installations with this stove. Is that true???

 

[certified106]

Non-cat stoves will need repair/maintenance after many years as well and it's gonna be a whole lot more expensive than a cat.

Somehow I don't think the air tubes are more expensive than a replacement cat.

Especially, if you buy a PE since there is a lifetime guarantee on the baffle system and stove. The only thing you would have to replace eventually is door and window gaskets. PE also has a pretty tight clearance to combustibles.

 

[eclecticcottage]

How close do you need? The Lopi Republic 1750/Endeavor has a 4.25" clearance on the rear-maybe not quite as big as you wanted firebox wise though (2.2 cubic feet). That's why we went with the Republic, we needed close rear clearances because of the size of our living room-it was only going to be 12' deep from wall to wall and it would have been rather warm on the couch if we had a stove far into the room. Ended up 14' deep after we out a closet, but it's still nice to have it back a reasonable distance from the couch!

Republic: (broken link removed to http://www.lopistoves.com/productuide/detail.aspx?id=247#Specs)

Ours, with legs instead of pedestal:

 

[Hogwildz]

WarHorse, here is the link to the 30's manual. If it is another Englander stove you were looking at they have those manuals on the site also.
http://www.englanderstoves.com/manuals/30-NC.pdf
Pages 5, 6 & 7 show the clearances both with single wall & double wall.
The pages following that will show you hearth specs.
Print them out and show the "pro". Might want to consider another installer if he was that quick to spew bs about clearances.

 

[HotCoals]

You want a lotta stove, but no cat? A modern cat stove couldn't be more simple. The cat is made by an outside company, so no need to get one from the stove manufacturer. They last many years and only cost a few hundred bucks, I guarantee you will make that money back in the reduced wood consumption. Non-cat stoves will need repair/maintenance after many years as well and it's gonna be a whole lot more expensive than a cat. They both have good qualities, just don't be afraid to look into cat stoves.

You would think everybody would want a cat because of the controlled low burns in the shoulder seasons..which can be half the battle.
A t-stat like the BK uses sure makes it even nicer.
One lever for by-pass and one knob that controls both air and T-stat..simple...and not much worry about a runaway stove unless maybe if you leave the t-stat all the way up.
That's all you have to think about..setting the T-stat and closing the by-pass once things are in motion good.
No worries about uncontrolled air going to your secondary's or maybe even the dog house or zipper to cause more action then you're looking for.

But all that said I think some just want a fire now and then and maybe heat their house fast..and are happy with 8-10 hour burns..then I think the tube stoves fits in nicely then.

 

[Treacherous]

My stove decision came down to extremely tight clearance issues. Perhaps if the Chinook would have been available in 2010 that is what I would be burning today.

You would think everybody would want a cat because of the controlled low burns in the shoulder seasons..which can be half the battle.
A t-stat like the BK uses sure makes it even nicer.
One lever for by-pass and one knob that controls both air and T-stat..simple...and not much worry about a runaway stove unless maybe if you leave the t-stat all the way up.
That's all you have to think about..setting the T-stat and closing the by-pass once things are in motion good.
No worries about uncontrolled air going to your secondary's or maybe even the dog house or zipper to cause more action then you're looking for.

But all that said I think some just want a fire now and then and maybe heat their house fast..and are happy with 8-10 hour burns..then I think the tube stoves fits in nicely then.

 

[HotCoals]

My stove decision came down to extremely tight clearance issues. Perhaps if the Chinook would have been available in 2010 that is what I would be burning today.

You would think everybody would want a cat because of the controlled low burns in the shoulder seasons..which can be half the battle.
A t-stat like the BK uses sure makes it even nicer.
One lever for by-pass and one knob that controls both air and T-stat..simple...and not much worry about a runaway stove unless maybe if you leave the t-stat all the way up.
That's all you have to think about..setting the T-stat and closing the by-pass once things are in motion good.
No worries about uncontrolled air going to your secondary's or maybe even the dog house or zipper to cause more action then you're looking for.

But all that said I think some just want a fire now and then and maybe heat their house fast..and are happy with 8-10 hour burns..then I think the tube stoves fits in nicely then.

I almost went with a Lopi Liberty..nice stoves…sure better looking then the BKK..lol.


I’m watching that Progress thread..cat/tube combo is interesting…but could be conflicting.

To the OP,
That Englander 30 seems like the best bang for the buck..even when not on sale.

 

[certified106]

You want a lotta stove, but no cat? A modern cat stove couldn't be more simple. The cat is made by an outside company, so no need to get one from the stove manufacturer. They last many years and only cost a few hundred bucks, I guarantee you will make that money back in the reduced wood consumption. Non-cat stoves will need repair/maintenance after many years as well and it's gonna be a whole lot more expensive than a cat. They both have good qualities, just don't be afraid to look into cat stoves.

But all that said I think some just want a fire now and then and maybe heat their house fast..and are happy with 8-10 hour burns..then I think the tube stoves fits in nicely then.

Yup that's it.... I would just like a fire every now and then.....Now maybe I should run on out to the propane tank and hook up the propane line that has been disconnected for the last 6 years since the house is feeling a little cool...

 

[certified106]

It sounds like the Englander was a top contender based on the other thread. If so, there may be some great sales coming up shortly at HD.

Yes, It sounds like an Englander would be a great stove. BUT.....I called the company that would be installing my new stove to enquire about clearances, and they said there are no close clearance installations with this stove. Is that true???

Which stoves are you currently looking at and what is your price range as that will greatly dictate what stoves you may be interested in?
The Englander 30 is going to be the best bang for your buck and hard to beat if you are looking for a stove under a $1000

 

[eclecticcottage]

You want a lotta stove, but no cat? A modern cat stove couldn't be more simple. The cat is made by an outside company, so no need to get one from the stove manufacturer. They last many years and only cost a few hundred bucks, I guarantee you will make that money back in the reduced wood consumption. Non-cat stoves will need repair/maintenance after many years as well and it's gonna be a whole lot more expensive than a cat. They both have good qualities, just don't be afraid to look into cat stoves.

But all that said I think some just want a fire now and then and maybe heat their house fast..and are happy with 8-10 hour burns..then I think the tube stoves fits in nicely then.

Yup that's it.... I would just like a fire every now and then.....Now maybe I should run on out to the propane tank and hook up the propane line that has been disconnected for the last 6 years since the house is feeling a little cool...

Lol...um...we don't have anything to hook the propane up to-yet, anyway.

The BK looks...um...well, it didn't look like something I wanted as the focal point in my livingroom.

 

[WarHorse]

It sounds like the Englander was a top contender based on the other thread. If so, there may be some great sales coming up shortly at HD.

Yes, It sounds like an Englander would be a great stove. BUT.....I called the company that would be installing my new stove to enquire about clearances, and they said there are no close clearance installations with this stove. Is that true???

Which stoves are you currently looking at and what is your price range as that will greatly dictate what stoves you may be interested in?
The Englander 30 is going to be the best bang for your buck and hard to beat if you are looking for a stove under a $1000

The 3 stoves below interest me the most.

I like the Buck 74, but the firebox is a little small for my liking. Everything else about this stove I like.

The Englander is a nice stove as well. I just measured my hearth for close clearances, and my hearth layout runs a little short on the front right side corner about 6 inches. (Thanks to Hogwildz link!!)

The Jotul Oslo 500, Nice looking... but I don't think it even has a 2.5 cubic firebox??? Looking at the Jotul brochure, and website is no help finding this out. I Suppose adding this mystery to their marketing strategy helps keep people interested. The side door needs to be taller IMO. How long of a log, and how many logs can one load in this stove with a coal bed already established?????

I'd like to keep the price of the stove at $3,500 or lower.

 

[remkel]

If you are looking at Jotuls have you looked at the F600 Firelight CB? 3 cu ft firebox, non catlalytic, huge heater! I am currently heating 2300 sq feet plus basement with it. Price range also meets your criteria.

Just throwing it into the mix.

 

[webby3650]

Non-cat stoves will need repair/maintenance after many years as well and it's gonna be a whole lot more expensive than a cat.

Somehow I don't think the air tubes are more expensive than a replacement cat.

Well you could be wrong depending on the stove. Some stoves have alot more going on than just tubes. Most people would have to pay a tech to do these repairs and the labor cost can be pretty high.

 

[Keeping America Warm]

I'm on the hunt for a new wood burning stove with a 2.5 cubic foot firebox up to 3.5 cubic foot firebox. Steel or Cast Iron. 6 or 8 inch flue size. Only interested in a Non Cat model. What say the people?????????

War Horse
Sounds like you have already doing your homework, "nocat" is smart!

Been doing this for 34 years now, (but still learning)
goto: www.osburn-mfg.com you won't do wrong! they're pretty phenomonal....


Download their brochure on PDF They have some pretty fair limited lifetime warranties, I have been using and selling their products for years so if you have a question I'll try to help I suggest the Osburn 2400 pedestal in the $2K range or the smaller 2000 for about $1.7K complete. Remember, no matter what the old timers say, bigger is definately better with the way the hi efficiency units now burn..

 

[Treacherous]

Non-cat stoves will need repair/maintenance after many years as well and it's gonna be a whole lot more expensive than a cat.

Somehow I don't think the air tubes are more expensive than a replacement cat.

Well you could be wrong depending on the stove. Some stoves have alot more going on than just tubes. Most people would have to pay a tech to do these repairs and the labor cost can be pretty high.

I can't imagine all the tubes failing at once and cost is probably $40-$60/piece IIRC. I've heard some say they fail in 2 years and some say they have the original ones after 10 years. I also do all my own repairs when possible so that cost is not something I probably have to consider. Aside from the door gasket and possibly adjusting the nut on the stove door handle I'm not sure what else would fail on my Lopi aside from some major welding defect that manifests itself years down the road after my warranty is up.

Don't get me wrong... I would consider a cat stove but everyone has their own reasons for selecting the stove they do.

 

[lopiliberty]

The air tubes in my liberty glow cherry red for LONG period of time and they have been doing this for one and a half years and there is no sign of sagging or any other deterioration of any kind. If you like ALOT of heat you will absolutely love the liberty although it is a little on the pricey side. Paid $2519 for it on sale. Best $2519 we ever spent. If you would chose the liberty this is what you would be in for "Its 46 degrees outside right now with a 20 to 30 MPH wind, and its 85 degrees in the living room" :bug: So when it gets down into the single digits they are forecasting hear for Tuesday night I know I will be nice and warm