Stove to Chimney connection

[UglyStrike]

Trying to switch to wood and now researching plan C.

I have a 28' fabricated 8" chimney with a brand new 6" Duraflex insulated liner.

The "professional" that was rebuilding my fabricated fireplace so I could install a wood insert told me today that he could not do what he planned and would need $900 more in order to complete the project so it would be safe for a insert.

I do not have the extra money to give him and basically told him what he could do with this bait and switch. I paid him for the work completed and as he was leaving he said I could connect a free standing stove to the chimney now and be done with it.

I looked it over and measured to the centerline of the 90 degree elbow out of the chimney and it is 28".

Most stoves I have looked at have at shortest a centerline pipe outlet(90 degree bend straight off stove) of around 35".

Can the pipe entrance into the chimney be lower than the stove exhaust?

Thanks and sorry for the dumb questions.

 

[webby3650]

If you go with a freestanding stove it will need to have a reversable flue collar. What is he doing to the fireplace? Removing the damper is really the only thing that needs to be done, and that has to be done in order to get the liner down. Sounds like a total rip off to me! If you have the liner, then what is this charge for?

 

[Dairyman]

You need to have 1/4" rise per foot of horizontal.
A quick look at Woodstock's website says a fireview is venting at 22.75" so look for more rear venting stoves.

 

[begreen]

Bummer, but now that that is decided stop and let us catch up with you. Can you post a picture of the current setup?

If you want to go freestanding, it's important to know what is there to start with. Different stoves have different hearth requirements. What is the current hearth? Is it raised or flush with the floor? How far does it project into the room?

 

[UglyStrike]

Sorry for delay, been really busy with work and travel.

Been trying to insert photo but cannot seem to be able too. Could someone please give me instruction?

 

[begreen]

Here's the general guidelines for picture uploading. Click the thumbnail to enlarge.

 

[UglyStrike]

Here is my current setup.

 

[begreen]

That works, it looks like a very nice mantel setup. Unfortunately, the same will be challenged by the stove's clearances to combustibles. Also, the hearth is too shallow for a free-standing stove and would need a significant extension.

What was the original plan and insert that was going to be installed. What went wrong with the liner install? I don't get what is going to take another $900. It sounds like you just need an insert and maybe an appliance adapter? What is the complication?

 

[UglyStrike]

Starting at the beginning:

Plan A: Install a Appalachian 30CD Wood Stove Insert, line the chimney, build and extend a raised hearth (DIY project). Failure point: Pre-fab is a Temco TFC 36-3 which is not approved for any wood insert.

Plan B: A local chimney sweep claimed that he could rebuild the Temco pre-fab, install a Century CW2500 Insert, line the chimney, build and extend a raised hearth and it would meet code for $3,600. Failure point: I am out of town the day he starts work. He tells my wife that looking at it again that he needs an additional $900.00 and it should meet code then. My response is "What do you mean it "should" meet code?" I get off the phone with him and call the company that installed the pre-fab. They tell me that there is really no way to make the Temco meet code. He further explained that a insert could be installed in the Temco but the Century would not fit in any configuration that could be called safe. He explained the questions for me to ask the chimney sweep about the install and suggested I ask my insurance agent if he would approve of the answers I received. I started asking real questions and the chimney sweep went away. Note: I thought he had lined the chimney but actually he did not do anything.

Plan C: Install a free standing stove with a rear vent. Failure point: Wife states not in this lifetime!

Currently:

Plan D: Went to company that installed Temco and asked what I could do. He suggested tearing out the Temco and the current chimney leaving the chase. Install a Lennox Villa Vista with a 8" 3-wall stainless steal chimney in the existing chase. Reuse the existing mantel by blocking up the base and it will blend in the extra couple of inchs in footprint differance from the Temco to the Villa Vista in depth. Width is the same. Add a fireproof pad in front. Failure point: Cost is @$5,600.00.

Plan E: I have just worked out plan E and want to know if it is possible. Tear out the Temco. Install a Flame Monaco XTD EPA Zero Clearance Fireplace - FL063, Line the existing 8" 2-wall air cooled pipe with 6" Duraflex insulated liner. Reuse the existing mantel by blocking up the base and it will blend in the extra couple of inchs in footprint differance from the Temco to the Monaco in depth. Width is the same. Add a fireproof pad in front. Estimated cost for material and Install: $4200.00.

Thanks all.