Suggestions for a 2nd stove?

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My Oslo heats my home said:
firefighterjake said:
I'm just flabbergasted about the football statement . . . guessing you have plenty of time to buck, split and stack the wood on Sunday afternoons. ;)

For the record, I would go with a small Jotul if you like the Oslo . . . or even consider a small Woodstock or Hearthstone (although I cannot remember if any of them have ash pans.)

I'm with Jake, I like the Jotuls. The 602 or the 118 would be great sizes to heat that space.

Yes, I do really like those, but they don't have ash pans.
 
Peter SWNH said:
My Oslo heats my home said:
firefighterjake said:
I'm just flabbergasted about the football statement . . . guessing you have plenty of time to buck, split and stack the wood on Sunday afternoons. ;)

For the record, I would go with a small Jotul if you like the Oslo . . . or even consider a small Woodstock or Hearthstone (although I cannot remember if any of them have ash pans.)

I'm with Jake, I like the Jotuls. The 602 or the 118 would be great sizes to heat that space.

Yes, I do really like those, but they don't have ash pans.

My bad, I'm not paying attention.
 
OKAY I GIVE UP!!!

What is with the obsession with ash pans? What is it that you want to accomplish by having one of these?
 
snowleopard said:
OKAY I GIVE UP!!!

What is with the obsession with ash pans? What is it that you want to accomplish by having one of these?

Simple, easy, fast, and clean ash removal from the stove. Ash removal can be done at ANY time regardless of where the stove is in the burn cycle. I had a stove that had no pan and shoveling ash out was a pain in the @$$. Never again. Just ain't happening...

Some folks here say they empty their pan once a week or less. Don't know how they do it. In the depths of winter, I have to empty the ash pan in the Oslo DAILY. If I wait 2 days, the pan is overflowing. I fill up a 55 gallon drum with ash over just one winter.
 
Okay, I get it. I think the folks who only empty once a month or so have ginormous ash pans, kind of like those dryers whose lint filters only have to be done once a year.

And I suppose if you had that system, you could keep a fire going non-stop. With the soapstone, I have more of a cyclic thing going, where the house temps are pretty stable even after the fire has burned down. If the ashpan is a dealbreaker, you don't want the Hearthstone--at least not a Heritage. The system is workable, and in theory, I could empty the ash pan mid-burn, but it would let in so much oxygen in the process that my fire would be hoppin', and it's fussy--open door, fit a weird wire handle around a metal tab, shake tab back and forth to drop ash, pull out an ash pan that has no back to it, kind of like a dustpan, and dump that into your ash can with airborne ash swirling aloft unless you're very slow and careful. I did that about four times before the light dawned.

I, too, empty daily, but have a routine down that has made it pretty painless. Instead of scooping ashes out of the stove into a container, I take a brush (a wallpaper-paste brush, shaped like a standard paintbrush, but stiffer and wider, is just the right size and stiffness for this) and sweep the ash over to one side of the stove, and clear out the air circulation channels, and then scoop them with a soft rubbermaid dustpan, using the brush to help sweep them into the dustpan. I take a retired turkey roaster (shallow, oval pan) and put it IN the stove, and dump the ashes into it. Pull the roaster out, brush the remaining ashes back into a pile, sweep them into the dustpan, roaster goes back IN the burnbox, ashes are dumped again, and I toss the tools into their box on my way out the back door with the turkey-roaster-ash-pan. Dump them in the galvanized trash can on the back porch, flip the turkey roaster over so it doesn't get snow in it, and I'm good for another day. It takes me about three minutes. Thus when I read about people pulling the ash out, and moving in slowmo as they dump the ashes carefully, I wonder why--the slap-and-slam method works well for me, perhaps because the door is big enough to allow me to insert the roaster and work in their with both hands, and my draft is sufficient that any airborne ash inside the stove is sucked up the chimney. Oh. So even though my system works well for me, it might not necessarily work well for others. Thus emptying ash becomes a PITA. Got it.

So thank you for that explanation--a bit of enlightenment.

So I have to go back and look at my other recommends, and see how they manage the ash question. Mostly I recommend those because I enjoy re-visiting those sites. I think they're cuter than heck--the Marine stoves, in my mind, completely rationalize the purchase of a boat (as if you need a reason).
 
Peter SWNH said:
snowleopard said:
OKAY I GIVE UP!!!

What is with the obsession with ash pans? What is it that you want to accomplish by having one of these?

Simple, easy, fast, and clean ash removal from the stove. Ash removal can be done at ANY time regardless of where the stove is in the burn cycle. I had a stove that had no pan and shoveling ash out was a pain in the @$$. Never again. Just ain't happening...

Some folks here say they empty their pan once a week or less. Don't know how they do it. In the depths of winter, I have to empty the ash pan in the Oslo DAILY. If I wait 2 days, the pan is overflowing. I fill up a 55 gallon drum with ash over just one winter.


I clean out the ashes in the morning when I have mostly coals.
 
I agree, a good ash pan is a must for me. Shoveling ash out will eventually make a mess no matter how careful you are. I empty my ash pan every other morning in my Keystones if I'm burning 24/7. I could probably go every 3rd day if I want but it's easier to remember every other day and stay in the habit.
 
Peter SWNH said:
snowleopard said:
OKAY I GIVE UP!!!

What is with the obsession with ash pans? What is it that you want to accomplish by having one of these?

Simple, easy, fast, and clean ash removal from the stove. Ash removal can be done at ANY time regardless of where the stove is in the burn cycle. I had a stove that had no pan and shoveling ash out was a pain in the @$$. Never again. Just ain't happening...

Some folks here say they empty their pan once a week or less. Don't know how they do it. In the depths of winter, I have to empty the ash pan in the Oslo DAILY. If I wait 2 days, the pan is overflowing. I fill up a 55 gallon drum with ash over just one winter.

Very odd . . . I dump the ash pan with the Oslo twice a week when I'm in middle of the winter and burning hard . . . could it be your wood that you are burning? Do you burn a lot of softwood even in middle of the winter?
 
firefighterjake said:
Very odd . . . I dump the ash pan with the Oslo twice a week when I'm in middle of the winter and burning hard . . . could it be your wood that you are burning? Do you burn a lot of softwood even in middle of the winter?

We've gone thru this before, Jake. :)

Regardless of what wood I burn, the ash pan will be overflowing in 2 days. Last year, I burned about 30% pine. This winter will be 80%.
 
Peter SWNH said:
firefighterjake said:
Very odd . . . I dump the ash pan with the Oslo twice a week when I'm in middle of the winter and burning hard . . . could it be your wood that you are burning? Do you burn a lot of softwood even in middle of the winter?

We've gone thru this before, Jake. :)

Regardless of what wood I burn, the ash pan will be overflowing in 2 days. Last year, I burned about 30% pine. This winter will be 80%.

HehHeh . . . I've probably posted something very similar to what I wrote in this thread as well . . . my wife says I tend to tell the same stories over and over as I forget that I tell her these things . . . so bear with me -- or just give me a smack aside my head once in a while. ;) :)
 
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