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BlueMule

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So fall of 2012 I ordered a cord of wood off of CL thinking we would be burning that winter. But other things came up and we didn't have the money to buy an insert, so the wood sat until this year. I scored probably about 2 cords of oak from weather downed trees that fall as well and then also got a 1/4 cord of 3 year old oak, so I thought I would be good. Then I start doing my research this fall as we got ready to buy an insert and Voila! I find out that I made the stereotypical amateur mistake: the CL hardwood I had bought was mostly poplar. AND the weather downed oak needed to be seasoned another year. So we blew through the 1/4 cord of 3 year old oak and all the "good" splits I could haul out of my CL purchase. The wife and I agreed to try to find something on CL to make it through the rest of the winter. I worked my way through CL listings, coming across individuals who didn't even know what a moisture meter was til I found a seller that talked the talk and claimed that he could walk the walk. And of course, he was the most expensive.

Me: "You're advertising that your wood is seasoned and is X%. I need to burn this now to make it through the winter and explicity need SEASONED wood. Will you guarantee that?"
Seller: "Of course! My wood is all oak and is truly seasoned, all under cover. That's why my price is so high."
Me: "Ok. I need this ASAP. You're a long way off so just to forewarn you that before you dump it, I'm going to split a couple of lengths and measure it with my meter. And if it's greater than say, 20%, I'm not going to take it. Capisce?"
Seller: "No problem. blah blah blah, mine is the best, blah blah blah, I'm the last CL seller left with true seasoned wood, blah blah blah, A way to find out if a wood seller knows his stuff is to ask him if he owns a moisture meter, blah blah blah, I heat a 6k sqft house with wood cause I'm the best, blah blah blah, it's illegal to sell firewood in MD that is 30% or greater in moisture content".
Me: "I've never heard of that law before."
Seller: "Yup, it's the law. Anyways, I may sound like a blowhard, but I'll put my seasoned wood where my mouth is any day of the week. See you tomorrow morning. $250 for the wood and $50 to deliver. Cold hard cash."
Me: "See you tomorrow."

So CL Seller shows up. Big trailer full of beautiful oak. "It's soaking wet from all the rain we just had. Other than that, this stuff is great. Here, check this split." And he tosses a split from his side of the trailer to the side I'm at. So I split it and whip out my $40 Home Depot meter that every one else on here has.

29%.

CL Seller: "Try another one. What kind of meter is that? Let me check it with mine."
Me: "It's a $40 Home Depot meter that every one else has."
Seller: "Huh. My meter says 29%. That must have been a fluke split. Try this one."

I check that one. 30%. He checks it with his. 30%. Next I hear a spewing of BS that started with, "You can burn my wood like this", "There's a hole in my tarp", "Jose is to blame, he loaded this trailer and probably put the wrong wood in" to ending with "Give my wood two weeks and it will be ready to go." Each line was contradictory to the previous and obviously didn't jibe with the concept of "SEASONED WOOD". Then he dropped the price $50 to unload it on me since he'd just driven almost 2 hours with the traffic. But we just spent $2k on a vacation and we don't have money to throw around. So off he went in a huff, right after telling me he would unload it on a lady down in Towson.

To top it off his F250 left two 6" diameter oil spots on my very nice, unmarked, still new-looking 6 month old driveway that I paid $6000 to have put in.
 
I don't believe anyone selling firewood knows anything about moisture content. I know that's a broad statement but
it sure seems to be true. The only people that pay attention to MC are the folks like us who are burning it and are
trying to get the most out of our wood, stoves and boilers and save on cleaning the chimney.
 
I apparently met that guy's second cousin here in Dayton. The only difference what that my guy showed up with half a cord...;ex
 
Yep, they Breed also.
 
I took my lumps on craigslist once ... never again.

There are honest ones out there though.

I did find a great local older guy (on CL), who's been splitting and selling for almost 40 years. He processes over 70 cords by himself every year. He doesn't deliver, but is more than happy to have someone come down with moisture meters and check the wood before they buy. Grabbed a third cord from him (all under 20%), and burning like a champ.
 
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You were wise to mention moisture content, if you would have just said seasoned you would have had problems. I like how he said you could burn it in 2 weeks, oaks going to go from 30% to 20% in 2 weeks :eek:
 
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I had a conversation with a seller on craigslist that went like this:

Yep is seasoned the tree has been on the ground for 4-5 months!

I asked a few questions and his definition of seasoned was that the tree had been cut down a season ago.
 
I actually wrote a thank you email to a CL seller recently even though I didn't buy anything from them. They clearly stated "green wood" for sale and the price reflected that. I appreciate that they were very clear and upfront with what they had. I hope they get lots of smart buyers.
 
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If they are in the business of selling firewood on CL, they aren't going to cut/split it and then wait two years to advertise it : )

Once you get ahead of the seasoning curve by 18-24months, that's the time to jump into the CL game and look for good pricing because seasoning won't matter to you. I have a tree-cutter guy that will drop off cherry, apple, locust at a great price - but it's just been cut (and he's honest about it). I found him on CL, good find, but not if I needed ready-to-burn.

by the way - I once had a CL guy bring me what he said was 2 cords. When he pulled in the driveway I did some quick math using the dimensions of his bed I came up with maybe 160cu ft - WAY short of 2cords. I said don't dump it, it's not even close. He dropped the price to where I was willing to take it - but he was PI$$ED. When I finally got it stacked a few weeks later it was about 150cu ft.

Anyway with CL, it's best to assume it's all unseasoned no matter what they tell you. Also good to know how to eyeball a cord while it's still in the truck :)
 
I saw a posting from a guy looking for firewood, it went something like: I need properly seasoned hardwood so don't try and sell me pine or any other crap. The wood cannot have been out in the open,must have been under cover/roof for at least 2 years.
I wonder if he ever found that dream wood....oh I forgot, he wasn't paying any more than $150/cord too.
 
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That proves an excellent point - it isn't always the sellers that are unreasonable :)
 
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Sellers could make a killing if they could sell wood base on flame quality. Ask the customer what kind of burner they are, if they heating a house or just burn for ambiance. Then they could sell a cord of white poplar to a person who is burning for ambiance. They will get the most out of it. For people like use, order 3 cords of only locust and white oak.
 
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