thermal storage pressurized tank prices

[jpelizza]

looking into getting thermal storage by next winter. have econoburn 150. i think i'l like 800-1000 storage.

got a price from tarm, 400 gallon tanks 3000$ a peice, ouch.

also not sure if i'm going to stack 2 500's horrizontal, or 2 500 gallon vertical, or 2 400 vertical or horizontal.

for any DIY what were you able to get used tanks for? and were they asme?

has anyone put there tanks in different spots? for instance i have room in garage where boiler is to maybe stack 2 500 but it would fit better if i did 1 500 veritcal and another 500 vertical in my basement utiltiy room where my primary loop is for radaient heat. or does it work much better if they are both close together?

thanks for any input.

my plan is to ask local lp places for used tanks, maybe look into amish place but not sure if any are close, and of course craigslist. and i'm going to get price from ahona as well they are 2 hr from me.

 

[mustash29]

(broken link removed)

 

[Fred61]

Are you 2 hours east or 2 hrs west of AHONA. Two hrs. east would put you close to the Vermont border. I have seen propane tanks at both Hodgdon Brothers in Ascutney Vt and Gates Salvage in Hardwick Vt. on past visits although it's been a while since I've been scrounging.

Hodgdon ------ 802-674-6202

Gates ------ 802-472-5794

Mark's place always seems to be a long ride from anywhere so these places probably wouldn't be any worse. It will also keep you off I-90 with a load of potentially dangerous cargo. Bring a spray can and scribble "POOL WATER" on the side of the tank to keep the sniffing police away.

I recall once asking a worker at Hodgdons who was taking a torch to a 250 gallon tank what he did to insure there was no gas in the tank and his answer was " well the drain has been open for two weeks now".

 

[Frozen Canuck]

You should have asked him to go & google daisy cutter Fred. Open his eyes to the possibilities maybe.

 

[jpelizza]

Are you 2 hours east or 2 hrs west of AHONA. Two hrs. east would put you close to the Vermont border. I have seen propane tanks at both Hodgdon Brothers in Ascutney Vt and Gates Salvage in Hardwick Vt. on past visits although it's been a while since I've been scrounging.

Hodgdon ------ 802-674-6202

Gates ------ 802-472-5794

Mark's place always seems to be a long ride from anywhere so these places probably wouldn't be any worse. It will also keep you off I-90 with a load of potentially dangerous cargo. Bring a spray can and scribble "POOL WATER" on the side of the tank to keep the sniffing police away.

I recall once asking a worker at Hodgdons who was taking a torch to a 250 gallon tank what he did to insure there was no gas in the tank and his answer was " well the drain has been open for two weeks now".

i'm east of ahona

 

[jpelizza]

(broken link removed)

i'm looking into those, thanks for link

 

[maple1]

I paid around 800 for two 330s and one 110.

Check local scrapyard's - especially big ones.

 

[Bob Rohr]

yes the tanks can be in different locations. I have a 500 right behind my EKO 40, an 80 gallon next to it for a hydraulic separator. Across the shop is a 160 mounted vertically, it also serves as my solar drainback tank.

I use solar differential controllers to shuffle the heat from tank to tank.

 

[jpelizza]

if the tank is vertical then the flow into tank is on bottom port correct?? and the outflow of water is on top of tank?? is that correct?

 

[maple1]

Load flow yes. Boiler flow is the opposite.

 

[salecker]

My boiler loads the tanks through the top,and my hot for the load draws from the top.
My boiler feeds the top of the tanks through 1 1/2" copper.About half way i have a tee which feeds the flat plate heat exchanger which feeds my load.That run is 1 1/4" copper with a pump on it.When the boiler is firing it has a bigger pump pumping to the tanks,the smaller pump pulls from that line for the load.Once the boiler is finished the big pump shuts off with the boiler.The smaller pump is still running and is now pulling from the top of the tanks.
The return from the flat plate ties into the return from the tanks to the boiler,which helps increase the temp returning to the boiler at start up,and returns to the tanks when the boiler isn't running.Make sure the plumbing is reversed on vertical tanks to help even loading of the tanks.
Not sure if this is how others have theirs,but each install has it's differences.
Thomas

 

[Gasifier]

I bought one 400 gallon tank I found on the internet. I think I paid $600 for it if I remember right. Or close to it. It is a great benefit to my system. It was a former air tank for a shop. ASME rated. I installed it right next to my boiler.

 

[jeffesonm]

Scour craiglist and be patient... I found three 200 gallon tanks for $100/ea.

 

[Tennman]

Yes, be patient. I got the first 500 gal propane for 250 second for 400.... got tired of waiting. Then add $1000 for foaming. Welding the legs and ports and pressure/leak testing were not too bad... couple hundred bucks. So I'm not far off $2K for 1000 gal covered with foam. Not everyone uses spray foam but I love it's performance.

 

[mmudd]

I found a used 500 gallon ASME pressure rated hot water tank for $500 from a company the demolishes buildings.

 

[jpelizza]

thanks for all the posts, leaning toward getting a 400 or 500 vertical in my garage next to boiler and then may 1-2 300-400 vertical tanks for utility room in basement. that give me about 1000-1300 depending on combination. even the 240 vertical are nice and may be easiest to get in my utility room in basement. i have walk out so i might be able to get bigger in.

i do like the idea of air tank asme already and ports are good to go that is enticing.

smokelss has 240 gallon vertical propane tank for 799 and 500 gallon for 899 (a little extra for welded legs to vertical). going to get a price from ahona they are 2hr from and smokeless 3hr from me.

ebay has new asme vertical air tanks 240 gallon about 900, 400 gallon 1300.

 

[NE WOOD BURNER]

(broken link removed to http://burlington.craigslist.org/for/4309821231.html)


FYI

 

[jpelizza]

(broken link removed to http://burlington.craigslist.org/for/4309821231.html)


FYI

Thanks! Looking into it.

 

[Gasifier]

For some reason that looks smaller than said capacity. Must be taller/longer than appears.

 

[jpelizza]

Thanks! Looking into it.

Tank is sold already I asked for dimensions and reply was it sold

 

[NE WOOD BURNER]

(broken link removed to http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/tls/4357854393.html)

 

[Gasifier]

Dam. Sorry you couldn't get that one. At that price I can see why it sold so fast.

 

[NE WOOD BURNER]

(broken link removed to http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/tls/4338109720.html)
(broken link removed to http://burlington.craigslist.org/for/4323348346.html)

 

[Gasifier]

Yikes. That'll set your payback back a few years. (Burlington one )

 

[jpelizza]

My last option I considering is behind my garage putting in one 1000 gallon tank. Pour a few sona-tubes. Insulate the crap out if it. , maybe even build small structure around it.

Pros: one tank less fittings, doesn't take any space from ny garage.

Anyone build anything like that?

Ahona 1000 gallon tank be 2k.

Prob could find one cheaper but I don't know if I can find someone to do ports for me, ahona be all set up to connect.