Tonyray, P61 pellet use and settings here !

[alternativeheat]

To answer your question from the thread we hijacked. I find that medium fan uses less than hi fan by a small amount ( at least till the house catches up) but the out rooms get better heat on high fan.. I see higher ramp up of flame with high fan on. I do not change settings other than that for overnight burn. I leave it alone. In this weather I will burn maybe 1-1/2 bags a day, could be two depending on pellet quality and wind ( in the 20's with a hi mid day spike of 32).. If it stays cold, Generally between high teens and high twenties last year I was burning that to two bags a days. From teens to single digits a steady two bags a day. Down around 0, 2-1/2 bags. The most I burned last year was three but we had 40 MPH winds and -6-+6 degs out. My house could be much tighter but it is a little tighter this year than last.!! I'm pretty sure at 1800 sq ft my stove works harder than yours has to Tony, so I'm not sure how much comparison you can take from all that !

And actually my stove just went into maintenance burn for a short time, pretty good. Speaking of which, long maintenance burns don't help pellet consumption, it can ramp up for heat and hold the house and use less sometimes. Depends how bad a ramp up it is.

Oh and I am running in Room temp manual, 72 deg. Feed rate 4.

 

[bags]

Good to know. I'm about the same here and like temps. Colder than normal here by about 20 degrees below averages this time of the year.

 

[alternativeheat]

Good to know. I'm about the same here and like temps. Colder than normal here by about 20 degrees below averages this time of the year.

Wow, i would think that to be cold for Kentucky ! Glad your P68 is working out for ya.

 

[bags]

4" of snow expected tomorrow night thru Mon AM. High of 32 Mon and low 10. Tues high 26 low 11 is what they are saying now. It's been below average for about two weeks now. Sucks. P68 is handling it now problem other than more pellets.

We can go from one extreme to another here in short order. Unfortunately we are getting the same stuff Iowa and MN. I like the south west jet stream much better than the Great Lakes Effect. It is crazy that at times people up north have warmer weather. Talked to a friend in MD and he said it was 50 there. At that same time I read my outside thermometer and it was 30 here. Go figure. Think high today is 38 which it is now and warmer down to 30 tonight.

 

[alternativeheat]

4" of snow expected tomorrow night thru Mon AM. High of 32 Mon and low 10. Tues high 26 low 11 is what they are saying now. It's been below average for about two weeks now. Sucks. P68 is handling it now problem other than more pellets.

We can go from one extreme to another here in short order. Unfortunately we are getting the same stuff Iowa and MN. I like the south west jet stream much better than the Great Lakes Effect. It is crazy that at times people up north have warmer weather. Talked to a friend in MD and he said it was 50 there. At that same time I read my outside thermometer and it was 30 here. Go figure. Think high today is 38 which it is now and warmer down to 30 tonight.

Supposed to be 28 tonight here, we typically run 2-3 deg colder than expected. So same as last night. NO snow predicted that i am aware of, not yet anyway.

 

[bags]

Ours might not stick anyway. Maybe the grass. It will depend on temps. I've seen it snow in Oct and April here too. Normally these temps are Jan & Feb.

 

[alternativeheat]

Ours might not stick anyway. Maybe the grass. It will depend on temps. I've seen it snow in Oct and April here too. Normally these temps are Jan & Feb.

Back many years ago I used to plow for the town. It was Thanksgiving day and started snowing lightly in the late morning. A couple inches predicted. 11 inches later and now midnight I was out plowing. So never say never !!

Blizzard of 78, Cape Cod, 4 inches predicted with a change to rain. Three days later it stopped snowing , there was 36 inches of snow in my driveway and 28" on level ground ( it always blows into my driveway in a NE wind), some buildings had drifts off the roof to the ground on their SW facing sides.. Ya it changed to rain, for about an hour on the second day. The National Guard came in to remove snow bankings down town. Power was out for almost a week. That was before I plowed, a friend came to plow me out. I thought never happen but that old Dodge Power wagon with slant six and nubby tires pushed it right out. Remember this was heavy snow, on the edge of rain but it never really changed. I gained a new respect for little six cylinder engines that year. It's all about gears.

 

[bags]

Ha Ha! Yes, I know! I remember the '78 Blizzard. The Ohio River froze over for months. That was a record year here for snowfall and we just about tied it last winter for cold temps and overall snow accumulation totals. I was out of town for work last winter and the wife was not a happy camper loading the Woodmaster up.

Hence the new P68 in Oct last month. Love it! She likes it more and wasn't to thrilled about me buying another heating appliance. Her mind has done a 180 turn in the last couple of weeks. She is in a T shirt and light weight sweat pants now and I have it on low settings.

I also just told her I am buying another pellet stove for another area of our house. Wish I could swing another Harman (P43) but can't due to many other projects going on here at the same time. Finishing my house up. Thinking about the PAH from amfm for $999. Will look for better deals on another Harman this spring. I have another place for the PAH too. She is now sold on the concept and all for buying another.

In fact she asked if I was getting another Harman................ I wish but I think the 55TRPAH is a good deal and will serve us well also. Just not a $4,000 Harman. I can get a new P43 for $2,900 but could use the $2K elsewhere here now.

 

[bags]

Unless , of course, you'd like to donate two grand to the cause...........LOL! Good Buddy!

 

[alternativeheat]

Unless , of course, you'd like to donate two grand to the cause...........LOL! Good Buddy!

Wait a minute. You know yet how easy that Harman is to clean, have you done a cleaning ? And I know you know how easy it is to run. All brands are not that way. It's not just that some stoves are more noisy. Or that they all give heat, few give heat so simply and reliably as a Harman or equal. So, this winter if you are out of town, she knows how to run a Harman ? One thing I have learned about houses and wives, they are here whether you finish things up this year or not !

Edit: You may have seen me comment about a Timber Ridge Or a Timberline stove on here, that I have considered both. And considered amfm Energy. But that is for myself, for a basement install in my work shop. I know the full liability of that, am willing to deal with it in my basement work shop. If I needed another stove upstairs, I suspect it would be another Harman or another top brand anyway.

 

[bags]

Well I'm considering the PAH for a woodworking shop here but I can pick up some far reaches of the house with it also. Shop is not in the house but has a corridor attached. When I'm working in there it can be closed off. Dust vacs etc; control the mess well. When not making a mess I could open it up.

 

[alternativeheat]

Well I'm considering the PAH for a woodworking shop here but I can pick up some far reaches of the house with it also. Shop is not in the house but has a corridor attached. When I'm working in there it can be closed off. Dust vacs etc; control the mess well. When not making a mess I could open it up.

Incidentally, huge difference with eveness of heat distribution with the ceiling fan turned on at the top landing of the stairway going upstairs. The down stairs is better heated in remote corners on medium fan. But I knew this from last year anyway. Just passing it on. I have the fan pushing down the stairway.

 

[bags]

Hey Thanks. I have played around with my ceiling fans and other fans and am moving air well but This is a pretty far away remote area that I am looking to get some more heat in the area. No matter how hot I'm burning the P68 it just won't reach it there. Running the central HVAC fan only with plenty of supplies and returns barely helps. It's an isolated area and my thoughts are to heat there and where both stoves could meet up with the heat to do a more even job.

It's only 8-10 degree difference at most where I'm speaking of there and the room the P68 is in. Plus it's on the cold north end. Not bad at all considering how far away it is and the lay out of the my floor plan. I can deal with it as is but looking for an excuse to get another unit. It would also toast the other area and hallway out.

 

[alternativeheat]

Hey Thanks. I have played around with my ceiling fans and other fans and am moving air well but This is a pretty far away remote area that I am looking to get some more heat in the area. No matter how hot I'm burning the P68 it just won't reach it there. Running the central HVAC fan only with plenty of supplies and returns barely helps. It's an isolated area and my thoughts are to heat there and where both stoves could meet up with the heat to do a more even job.

It's only 8-10 degree difference at most where I'm speaking of there and the room the P68 is in. Plus it's on the cold north end. Not bad at all considering how far away it is and the lay out of the my floor plan. I can deal with it as is but looking for an excuse to get another unit. It would also toast the other area and hallway out.

We have ceiling fans in the two out most rooms from where the stove is located downstairs. Those we run in reverse. Just the one at the top of the stairway pushes air down. It's only 20 out this morning , still 72 in my dining room and very comfortable out and about. A little cooler in the main bedroom upstairs than the night before with out the fan running that night ( too warm up there) but still fine. Took a shower up in the main bathroom this morning and wasn't freezing in there. Happy happy, the house is a little tighter, we have OAK installed, less drafts, it's Sunday morning, coffee etc/ PTL !

 

[bags]

I'm brewing some now. Woke up and came down to 74. That is my cut off. Wife likes blankets lounging in the AC in July. Yea, I know......... I have kept my stove at the same settings to see how it reacts to various temps so I can prepare my settings for the never ending cold which is right around the corner. For that matter it has been here already the last week or so anyway.

It is 33 this AM. Yesterday it was 23 at this time. Guess the cold shifted right on up your way. The P68 will do the job I wanted it to do without a problem. Better than I was expecting really. The next couple of days starting tonight will be cold, cold here so I will reaffirm my thoughts here.

Overall the farthest reaches of the stove things are good temp wise. The biggest temp difference anywhere has averaged 7-8 degrees diff. I can deal with that. It's 68 there now and the house stat far away says 74. Same as the room with the stove. Not too bad for a "space heater" doing the whole house's main core. Up stairs is 72 with the farthest bedroom reading 69.

This 2nd floor room is far away and opposite end of the house from where the stove is. I am pretty content but with another stove added I know I can balance out consistent temps thru out. I am thinking at most I will see about a 2 degree differential worst case. I am pretty excited about this. This second stove will help do this because it will be at the other end of the house where the stairs go up off the hallway. There is a loft at this end which allows good air flow up. My thought is it will balance out much nicer.

 

[alternativeheat]

I'm brewing some now. Woke up and came down to 74. That is my cut off. Wife likes blankets lounging in the AC in July. Yea, I know......... I have kept my stove at the same settings to see how it reacts to various temps so I can prepare my settings for the never ending cold which is right around the corner. For that matter it has been here already the last week or so anyway.

It is 33 this AM. Yesterday it was 23 at this time. Guess the cold shifted right on up your way. The P68 will do the job I wanted it to do without a problem. Better than I was expecting really. The next couple of days starting tonight will be cold, cold here so I will reaffirm my thoughts here.

Overall the farthest reaches of the stove things are good temp wise. The biggest temp difference anywhere has averaged 7-8 degrees diff. I can deal with that. It's 68 there now and the house stat far away says 74. Same as the room with the stove. Not too bad for a "space heater" doing the whole house's main core. Up stairs is 72 with the farthest bedroom reading 69.

This 2nd floor room is far away and opposite end of the house from where the stove is. I am pretty content but with another stove added I know I can balance out consistent temps thru out. I am thinking at most I will see about a 2 degree differential worst case. I am pretty excited about this. This second stove will help do this because it will be at the other end of the house where the stairs go up off the hallway. There is a loft at this end which allows good air flow up. My thought is it will balance out much nicer.

I turned my stove down a bit yesterday after turning on the upstairs ceiling fan. The dining room soared up to 76 when I did that. Our dining room is where the thermostat is for our main heat and is the next room over from the living room where the stove is. It gets mostly radiating heat from the stove since the convection blower is not facing that way. Course with the convection fan going who knows how the heat actually travels around the house. Except that the stove does face the stairway, so stands to reason upstairs is getting heated, thus the ceiling fan pushing down. I'm about to fill the stove, it's been 14 hours, looks to me like it will take a bag. Room Temp Manual mode, set at 72 deg, medium fan, Feed Rate 4. The house is 72 by all intents and purposes.

 

[alternativeheat]

Hey guys, switched to stove temp today. It's just one of those days, room temp was ramping up and but long time down in maintenance burn ( it's 36 out). The out reaches were cooling down on the short cycles, so into stove temp. Working great.

 

[Tonyray]

To answer your question from the thread we hijacked. I find that medium fan uses less than hi fan by a small amount ( at least till the house catches up) but the out rooms get better heat on high fan.. I see higher ramp up of flame with high fan on. I do not change settings other than that for overnight burn. I leave it alone. In this weather I will burn maybe 1-1/2 bags a day, could be two depending on pellet quality and wind ( in the 20's with a hi mid day spike of 32).. If it stays cold, Generally between high teens and high twenties last year I was burning that to two bags a days. From teens to single digits a steady two bags a day. Down around 0, 2-1/2 bags. The most I burned last year was three but we had 40 MPH winds and -6-+6 degs out. My house could be much tighter but it is a little tighter this year than last.!! I'm pretty sure at 1800 sq ft my stove works harder than yours has to Tony, so I'm not sure how much comparison you can take from all that !

And actually my stove just went into maintenance burn for a short time, pretty good. Speaking of which, long maintenance burns don't help pellet consumption, it can ramp up for heat and hold the house and use less sometimes. Depends how bad a ramp up it is.

Oh and I am running in Room temp manual, 72 deg. Feed rate 4.

thanks for reply back/
was at a Pig roast all day yesterday in Delaware....

gonna spend the day playing around with ceiling fans downstairs...
I have a ceiling fan at top of steps for 2nd floor and seems to keep upstairs bedrooms warm with pushing cooler air down back the steps.
clockwise/lowest speed.
now going see what happens with 1 or 2 on 1st floor...
any experts here on ceiling fan settings to assist the stove on same floor jump in...

 

[alternativeheat]

thanks for reply back/
was at a Pig roast all day yesterday in Delaware....

gonna spend the day playing around with ceiling fans downstairs...
I have a ceiling fan at top of steps for 2nd floor and seems to keep upstairs bedrooms warm with pushing cooler air down back the steps.
clockwise/lowest speed.
now going see what happens with 1 or 2 on 1st floor...
any experts here on ceiling fan settings to assist the stove on same floor jump in...

Well I'm far from an expert but the best results I have gotten is with the fans furthest from the stove blowing up towards the ceiling ( reverse I guess) and that stove up in the stair way blowing down the stairs. The general idea here is that heat is pushed up and out to the outside wall downstairs , main floor. cool air will return. however in my house the rises automatically up to the second floor. By pushing air down the stairs it holds that back a bit and help even out the down stairs. I'm not fully into the mechanics I just know this works best in my house.

 

[Tonyray]

Well I'm far from an expert but the best results I have gotten is with the fans furthest from the stove blowing up towards the ceiling ( reverse I guess) and that stove up in the stair way blowing down the stairs. The general idea here is that heat is pushed up and out to the outside wall downstairs , main floor. cool air will return. however in my house the rises automatically up to the second floor. By pushing air down the stairs it holds that back a bit and help even out the down stairs. I'm not fully into the mechanics I just know this works best in my house.

sounds plausible and if it works for you that good....I'll play around any maybe start a thread[my pastime] about the fans and best uses..
don't ever see any threads but I'll check 1st.

ya know I left yesterday for delaware and didn't get home till 9 last nite.
didn't feel I needed the stove burning pellets all day so shut it off..[Was about 60 miles away].
got home and the house was 60 degrees...fired up the stove with the hopper almost full.
Man!! did I go thru some pellets when I got up this morning.. was really surprised..... guess it took a lot to play catchup...
most I ever went thru overnite..

 

[alternativeheat]

sounds plausible and if it works for you that good....I'll play around any maybe start a thread[my pastime] about the fans and best uses..
don't ever see any threads but I'll check 1st.

ya know I left yesterday for delaware and didn't get home till 9 last nite.
didn't feel I needed the stove burning pellets all day so shut it off..[Was about 60 miles away].
got home and the house was 60 degrees...fired up the stove with the hopper almost full.
Man!! did I go thru some pellets when I got up this morning.. was really surprised..... guess it took a lot to play catchup...
most I ever went thru overnite..

On that big of a catch up I'd have been temped to use stove temp mode. At least you know the burn rate will be steady. Plus I don't know about there but here it was only about 20 outside. If that was the case then you were raising the house's temp while cold is inundating the house, or trying to ! Well, it's warm in there now right ?

 

[Tonyray]

On that big of a catch up I'd have been temped to use stove temp mode. At least you know the burn rate will be steady. Plus I don't know about there but here it was only about 20 outside. If that was the case then you were raising the house's temp while cold is inundating the house, or trying to ! Well, it's warm in there now right ?

I haven't used stove temp yet this year and your right...it was in the 20's last nite and I prob should have used stove/auto/
actually I didn't think about it for a quicker warming..duh..
yes it got warm downstairs but took quite a while for upstairs to warm up...
was our coldest nite so far and prob would have normally used more fuel but starting from 60 degrees did me in pellet wise..

 

[alternativeheat]

I haven't used stove temp yet this year and your right...it was in the 20's last nite and I prob should have used stove/auto/
actually I didn't think about it for a quicker warming..duh..
yes it got warm downstairs but took quite a while for upstairs to warm up...
was our coldest nite so far and prob would have normally used more fuel but starting from 60 degrees did me in pellet wise..

Well Tony it's not like you don't have any in your basement, LOL !

 

[Tonyray]

Well Tony it's not like you don't have any in your basement, LOL !

correct..
but ya know, I cold have 10 tons on hand and still be checking out how to use less and still be warm.
eventually I'll stop this nonsense..lol.... made most of my mistakes last year as a newbie...
less mistakes this year for sure...
mistake yesterday was not leaving oil furnace set for higher than 60 degrees but was trying to save oil [& pellets]while I was gone for 10-12 hrs.