Water Leaking Around Chimney Box (with pics)

  • Active since 1995, Hearth.com is THE place on the internet for free information and advice about wood stoves, pellet stoves and other energy saving equipment.

    We strive to provide opinions, articles, discussions and history related to Hearth Products and in a more general sense, energy issues.

    We promote the EFFICIENT, RESPONSIBLE, CLEAN and SAFE use of all fuels, whether renewable or fossil.
  • Hope everyone has a wonderful and warm Thanksgiving!
  • Super Cedar firestarters 30% discount Use code Hearth2024 Click here

PatrickWR

New Member
Apr 14, 2021
24
Oregon
Hi folks. I've read a few threads on this topic and wanted to get some advice on my situation. I had a new chimney installed last year (March 2020). No previous chimney had existed in my house. The spot we picked required quite a bit of Class A pipe to achieve proper height, which you'll see in the pics. It's a straight chimney, no bends or curves.

I've noticed during heavy rains or windy rains that the attic support box will leak water. Not a lot, but enough that it's a nuisance. I hate water intrusion into my home (battle scars from past basement flooding). The water splatters onto my stove and I'm worried about eventual rust. The drips appear to be gathering in the lower lip of the support box, where the stove pipe enters the ceiling. This suggests to me that the water is coming down the inside of the chimney in some manner.

I explored the installation this week and took some photos of what I saw. The storm collar appears to be installed and caulked heavily (they did a second round of caulk at my request, so it looks pretty gnarly). The gap between the chimney and the flashing cone appears to be well covered by the storm collar...I just don't see how wind-driven rain getting up under the storm collar could be causing this issue. Here are some pics.

[Hearth.com] Water Leaking Around Chimney Box (with pics)[Hearth.com] Water Leaking Around Chimney Box (with pics)[Hearth.com] Water Leaking Around Chimney Box (with pics)[Hearth.com] Water Leaking Around Chimney Box (with pics)

My questions for you:
  • Should I caulk the vertical seam on these Class A pipe sections?
  • Should I caulk the horizontal joints where the Class A sections are fitted together? In one of the pics you can see what appear to be fingernail sized gaps, or maybe they're crimps, where the pipes are fitted together.
  • Could the chimney cap be the culprit? I have considered replacing it with one of those slanted wind directional caps. It's waaay up there and I'd probably need to engage a pro to swap it out.

Thanks for your assistance.
 
I would try caulking the vertical seam of at least the first length. Nothing worked for our old Selkirk chimney installation until I did that.
 
  • Like
Reactions: PatrickWR
I had wind issues blowing water up under the storm collar. At least I'm pretty sure that is what was happening. I put a quality aluminum tape over the seams and never had an issue again.
 
I have exactly the same issue. Outside situation and water appearance inside in exactly the same spot. (This is the chimney for my oil boiler.)

I had seen the result of old water intrusion (oxidation) inside, but never seen water. Until I looked in the boiler room after a very windy, very rainy storm. "Horizontal rain". Puddle on the floor.

Went up, caulked the seams. One more storm and I saw a drop hanging. (And the roof is less than a year old, done professionally.

I'll be caulking the vertical seam too.

I did see that under the storm collar there were 2" vertical slits in the pipe. I presume those are to vent heat from the outside of the insulated pipe
I was wondering whether water can spatter up into those slits. (But I'll be caulking the vertical seam nonetheless.)
 
  • Like
Reactions: PatrickWR
Best to first go into the attic if its that type on structure and see if you can find any water marks on the outside skin of the class a pipe.
 
Can't see it there; roof slope too shallow and the pipe runs up close to the wall. Can't stick my head between roof plywood sheet (nails...) above and ceiling joists below far enough to have a look. Tried with cameras but no luck .
 
Thanks for the insights, I'll be going up to caulk the vertical seams and the joints between each 4 foot section as soon as things dry out around here.
 
Just wanted to circle back on this and report on what I did.

I got some high-temp silicone caulk and climbed up on the roof and caulked every connection point I could see - vertical seams and horizontal joints between pipe sections. I wasn't able to get all the way up to the tip top, but I probably did 50% of the exposed pipe. (Remember, this is a tall chimney)

Anyway, that seemed to make a difference, and I have not had water intrusion since then (despite getting slammed with some Pacific cyclone remnants a couple of weeks ago here in the PNW). So, I'm cautiously optimistic that I have solved the problem. I will be reporting this back to my installer so they have a data point if more customers call about this.
 
Good deal. I think you have the problem solved.
 
Same here; did the vertical seam (only one that had not been done yet), and the two storms we had here produced a lot of rain outside and none inside.
 
I tried several other fixes with our old Selkirk chimney. Nothing worked until I siliconed the vertical seam.