What is happening with my liner?

[Dmitry]

I recently got to clean my liner and found this. See the pictures.
I thought it's the creosote on the walls and tried to clean it up, but it just stayed the same.
I reached with my hand to check it out and found it was the the inner layer of liner sticking out. Like scales lifted up.
I've used this liner for 10 years now, burning 24/7 mostly in CT. It was one of those double-wall smooth liners that was not too expensive.
After installation, I found on this forum that I should have gone with professional heavy duty but it was too late.
Looking for advice from professionals if any action is required and on what is going on with the liner.

 

[begreen]

It's failing, but a good illustration of why we discourage installing them. Is there a long warranty on it?

 

[Dmitry]

No warranty. As many people, we thought Insert was going to be a decoration with fire on weekends. Ended up addicted and burning 24/7.
How long a can use it in this condition and when the replacement is a must?

 

[Ctwoodtick]

Sorry to see this happening. Maybe get through the season and call for a good reputable company to install a heavy wall liner with insulation. I’m in CT and know that there are some goofballs out there. Feel free to PM me and I can give you a recommendation. I can also tell you who to avoid as well depending on where you are in the state. I’m in southeast CT.

 

[kennyp2339]

No warranty. As many people, we thought Insert was going to be a decoration with fire on weekends. Ended up addicted and burning 24/7.
How long a can use it in this condition and when the replacement is a must?

It’s failed, so essentially your rolling the dice every time you have a fire going

 

[Dmitry]

It’s failed, so essentially your rolling the dice every time you have a fire going

Hopefully will survive the rest of the season. Its double-ply and insulated if it matters in this situation

 

[bholler]

Hopefully will survive the rest of the season. Its double-ply and insulated if it matters in this situation

The double ply is why it failed. I wouldn't use it if it was in my house

 

[Dmitry]

The double ply is why it failed. I wouldn't use it if it was in my house

Do you think it’s unsafe to use it for the rest of the season ? Thanks

 

[bholler]

Do you think it’s unsafe to use it for the rest of the season ? Thanks

I don't know for sure but the safety is definitely in question

 

[kcmclellan]

Do you think it’s unsafe to use it for the rest of the season ? Thanks

That's a real shame about the liner, but I would just curse myself, count myself wiser than I used to be, and stop using it immediately. Your home and contents may be replaceable, but you and your loved ones aren't....

 

[EbS-P]

Your not saving much y continuing t use it. It needs replacing. Put and order in for it’s replacement ASAP. Get and insulation kit too.

 

[begreen]

A medium weight, .010 liner will work well and will be easier to find.

Hybrid Chimney Liner

Buy Hybrid Chimney Liner at hearth stove and patio.The reason is simple, better quality, easier to install and will perform better than other chimney liner!

hearthstoveandpatio.com

Smooth Wall Chimney Liner

Smooth Wall Chimney Liner

www.fireplace-chimneystore.com

 

[webby3650]

We use the same liner but from a manufacturer in Indy. I’m curious if they make liners for other people like Olympia. I’m assuming they do

 

[Dmitry]

Your not saving much y continuing t use it. It needs replacing. Put and order in for it’s replacement ASAP. Get and insulation kit too.

It's not about saving money. I want to take time and do it right. We are burning 24/7 and it would be an inconvenience. And the weather at the moment is atrocious. Not a good time to be on a roof.

 

[Dmitry]

A medium weight, .010 liner will work well and will be easier to find.

Hybrid Chimney Liner

Buy Hybrid Chimney Liner at hearth stove and patio.The reason is simple, better quality, easier to install and will perform better than other chimney liner!

hearthstoveandpatio.com

Smooth Wall Chimney Liner

Smooth Wall Chimney Liner

www.fireplace-chimneystore.com

Asking for advice. I need just a 15' liner. With this length, the pre-insulated liner comes almost to the same price point. Speaking of insulating properties. Is a preinsulated liner more effective than a 1/2 blanket? Thanks

 

[kborndale]

Is it safe to use for the rest of the winter? Probably. You probably have a 99% chance that you burn the rest of the winter without an issue. If your ok with a 1% chance of burning your house down then keep using it.

 

[Ctwoodtick]

Asking for advice. I need just a 15' liner. With this length, the pre-insulated liner comes almost to the same price point. Speaking of insulating properties. Is a preinsulated liner more effective than a 1/2 blanket? Thanks

Pretty sure both the insulated and pre-insulated give you the zero clearance needed when in a masonry chimney. I don’t think there’s any additional positives past that. The preinsulated is light wall though. I believe the pre-insulated is not as bendable in the even you have offsets in the chimney.

 

[begreen]

Asking for advice. I need just a 15' liner. With this length, the pre-insulated liner comes almost to the same price point. Speaking of insulating properties. Is a preinsulated liner more effective than a 1/2 blanket? Thanks

It will work. I think the pre-insulated has a thinner inner wall. Check first if this is important to you. By putting on the blanket you can choose the weight of the liner. Or another option is the rigid, pre-insulated DuraLiner system if it's a straight-shot down.

 

[Dmitry]

It will work. I think the pre-insulated has a thinner inner wall. Check first if this is important to you. By putting on the blanket you can choose the weight of the liner. Or another option is the rigid, pre-insulated DuraLiner system if it's a straight-shot down.

Is upgrading to 316 worth it? I'm in Northeast, CT.

 

[bholler]

Is upgrading to 316 worth it? I'm in Northeast, CT.

No reason to for wood. It offers no benefit in that application

 

[Crab]

Here is a link for mid weight Olympia preinsulated liner. It is NOT thin wall.
https://www.fireplace-chimneystore....ated-hybrid-smooth-wall-stainless-liner-only/

 

[TomasB]

Damn, I wish I would have seen this 6 months ago. I just put that in! Doesn't look that smooth after all.

As well, why is nobody commenting that the liner is installed upside down, assuming that the pictures are taken from the bottom looking up?

 

[bholler]

Damn, I wish I would have seen this 6 months ago. I just put that in! Doesn't look that smooth after all.

As well, why is nobody commenting that the liner is installed upside down, assuming that the pictures are taken from the bottom looking up?

Nope the last pic you can see the top plate and cap. It's top down and correct