wiring vc reliance controls

[tingeezer]

Hi, new here, just bought a well used reliance stove, the previous owner cut the control switches and left me with six wires hanging out. I have figured out the start and stop wires. Its the other four wires that have me confused. I think two go to the rheostat for the fan and the other two have something to do with the thermostat setting. Looking at the white six pin connector, starting from the right hand side pins one and two are the momentary switches for start and stop . Does any one know how pins three thru six are wired. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks

 

[tingeezer]

My mistake the wires are numbered 1 thru 6 I went and double checked the start and stop Number 6 is the start and number 4 is the stop

 

[Ssyko]

What is the model?

 

[tingeezer]

It's a 2220 vermont castings

 

[Ssyko]

The wiring diagram is towards the end of the manual Here

 

[tingeezer]

I have that, but it doesn't show how the wires connect to the switches. It just says where it plugs in on the board. I either need a new control panel (that's what they call it) or the start, stop, thermometer select switch and the min max stove temp rheostat. And how to wire them in.

 

[Ssyko]

Ok i see which one you need. Thats gonna be a reverse engineering task or buy a replacement. I have done a few similar to that with daughter boards (huge pita)

 

[tingeezer]

A replacement would be great, don't know where to look, a google search came up empty. I have figured out the start and stop wires. It starts when I momentarily touch the #6 wire to 110 volts the exhaust fan runs as well as the feed motor. I can shut it off by touching the #4 wire to 110 volts. I have tested each of the other wires with my ohm meter, with the power off, I get a reading between wire #2 and wire #5 I get nothing between wires #1 and 5

 

[Ssyko]

3 wires will go to the temperature potentiometer one will go to the wiper(middle usually) and the other 2, the will go on each side. But how they relate to the board could take hours of tracing ea circuit. Is there an electronics repair near you.

 

[tingeezer]

Not that I am aware of.

 

[Ssyko]

I would contact VC and see if they have a daughter board or where you could get one

 

[tingeezer]

thanks, Being the weekend, not much in the way of calling for help. Thanks for your input. Tomorrow will be a busy day. Thanks again

 

[tbear853]

I know much of the VC 2220 Reliance is Harmon, I think VC got out of the line in the mid 1990s. I did have this thread earmarked, and a noter to me that the control board is a Harmon f851A

Newbie here with Vermont Castings Reliance 2220

Hello New to this forum and to wood pellet burners, but not to wood stoves and coal stokers. I just acquired a VC Reliance 2220 from a local CL add. The stove seems to be in fairly good shape, feeder works, exhaust blower works, and the two distribution blowers also work. The problem right...

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Hope it helps, great stove as long as I burn real high quality pellets.

 

[tingeezer]

Thanks, I need the control panel, the one with the switches not the control board . It's confusing trying to find the part, it's listed as a control panel and all that pops up is control boards. I will try to contact vc today and see if they can help.

 

[tbear853]

I see now, under the lid over to left ... Not sure how the panel comes out. If it's just two threaded screws into tapped holes with no nuts, I'll take a look later, stoves hot and running now and cold out Think I'd unplug first to look? Control Panel 5000003. I looked on google, not much there. UPDATED BELOW PIC:



UPDATED: I tried, I shut it down, unplugged, and turned the first screw back to remove and it just turned with no backing out so there is a nut behind it out of access, so I stopped and plugged her back in and touched the green go button. I had camera ready, maybe user "Bill A." here has a picture, I know he had one apart in 2018, took a lot of pics too. Send him a PM maybe? https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/newbie-here-with-vermont-castings-reliance-2220.170230/

 

[tingeezer]

That's the part, the previous owner just cut the wires off and I didn't get the switches or plate. If you can get a picture of how the the wires are connected that might help. there should be slack in the wire bundle enough to pull it out to look at. thanks for the assist

 

[Bill A]

Hello TinGeezer
At the time I was troubleshooting the stove I did look at the wiring for the the little control panel on the top of the stove. It's pretty simple, +10V from the board, goes to each of the switches, and one side of the potentiometer. It also goes to the Tstat switch, I think to the center, the movable arm of the switch. Each switch comes back to a pin on the connector. A common or ground goes to the opposite side of the potentiometer and the center wiper of the pot goes to it's own pin.

I never wrote down the exact order of the pins, or made a wiring diagram since I was able to get the stove up and running with the existing board.
If you get really stuck on this, let me know, and I will buzz out mine and draw it up for you.
Hope this helps
Bill

 

[tingeezer]

If you could make me a drawing that would be awesome. I think I two conversations going at the same time. I am also a 2 at computer skills

 

[Bill A]

Hello Tingeezer, see attached pix.
Note that pin 1 of the connector is closest to the top of the stove.

 

[tingeezer]

Bill, I think you just saved my bacon. I just ordered the pot and switch from ebay I will be forever grateful.

 

[tbear853]

Hello Tingeezer, see attached pix.
Note that pin 1 of the connector is closest to the top of the stove.

Interesting, I see threads in the holes, but when I loosened the first screw, it didn't back out nor will it tighten back in ... so I figured must be a nut under the top plate.

 

[tingeezer]

Bill, I think you just saved my bacon. I just ordered the pot and switch from ebay I will be forever grateful.

Got it all put back together, Bill's drawing did the job, waited longer for parts than it took to fix. I replaced my missing handles too, used deer horn. Thanks to Bill and tbear. Hope this will help others.

 

[Bill A]

Looks great, you have one of the enamel stoves, always liked the look, the red is nice.
Good luck with it.

 

[tbear853]

Love the red, did you make the horn handles yourself ?