Wiseway pellet burner as retro-fit for oil fired radiant hot water heat?

[Lake Girl]

I saw the earlier thread on Wiseway and immediately thought if only we had found something like that before we took out the radiant hot water system... Has anyone seen these in action in a green house?

Wonder how much of a pain they would be on 24/7 application.

Went searching and found that they passed the Canadian standard too!

I found a forum just for Wiseway - now down to some serious reading
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/wisestove

 

[ivanhoe]

very interesting! something to look further into, thanks!

 

[Shaw520]

Interesting,... reading through the forums, it seems the biggest issue is getting correct draft,..some ppl are experiencing too much draft, while others not enough. Also seems to me that the burn box design could be improved on.
Here's another though; why not install a "combustion assist" fan for start up, or for cases of inconsistent draft conditions,.. chances are once the flue reaches temp,...fan could be shut down.

 

[Lake Girl]

The point seems to me that they are looking for zero electrical power. Don't forget that these were originally intended for greenhouse use and aim is to lower costs all the way around. Not all green houses have electricity to them. We have a property that has no electrical service so this would be a good potential.

I'm not sure how comfortable I would feel with it in the house though - they need to work more of the kinks out first. I have the smoke and CO detectors but... I know the smoke detector works as I set it off last week while stripping paint with a heat gun "Honey, what ya burning?"

 

[Shaw520]

Don't forget that these were originally intended for greenhouse use and aim is to lower costs all the way around.

..and that is certainly an added option/bonus,..... but the "combustion assist" fan would be installed in the liner/flue for homes or buildings with less than ideal drafting....and would require very little elec / could be turned off when flue temps have been achieved.

Drafting problems on long chimneys are often because upper temps in the pipe are too cold to promote lift.

 

[Shaw520]

Lake Girl,
Dont get me wrong,.. I love the idea of no elec for tents and outbuildings! Im thnking about building one for my detached garage.

 

[Lake Girl]

Checking out their website further, the water heat exchanger is not UL listed

 

[Sweets]

That's my next stove in fall time 57,000 btu's
No power + no moving parts , genius .

 

[Sweets]

My pellet stove now is 45000btu's , need
A little more heat , well we all could use
A little more when it is in basement.

 

[Sweets]

For me it's not the power , it's the parts..
And the efficiently of the burning.
I signed up to be a dealer , will see what
Happens..

 

[DexterDay]

Remember. That the 57,000 BTU is "Input" BTU. Extraction of the heat, is a different story.

It will burn just over 7 lbs an hr.... Lots of stoves can do that. Its getting the heat back out of the unit.

I am a huge fan of this thing and it does have a very large convective area for heat exchange. But I would still be a skeptic about the over 50,000 BTU thing.

I thing its awesome for the greenhouse, hunting camp, backyard cabin, but in the house? Not sure yet?

 

[Shaw520]

Remember. But I would still be a skeptic about the over 50,000 BTU thing.

Im with ya on that Dex,.. great idea, just have a hard time grasping big results

 

[Sweets]

Yeah i guess your right , ive been follow it ,people having problems ,they already had to drill a hole for something
next to were the pellets feed?

 

[kenstogie]

Well I am intrigued. Gotta love the inginuity of it. Waiting for more data AND users though. If it were under 1k I would take the chance that's my $$ threshold. LOL Kinda wondering what the temp of the exhaust pipe is.

 

[rickwai]

It will be interesting to hear from a forum member that installs a Wiseway. It sounds to good to be true.

 

[kenstogie]

Anything on this??

 

[The Smokester]

It will be interesting to hear from a forum member that installs a Wiseway. It sounds to good to be true.

I Have one installed and they will amaze anyone who install's one they will operate differently depending on how the chimney configuration is but they can be dialed in with a change on their burn pot.
They were tested with a 15' tall 3" vent and could be controlled on low to 350 degrees with a high burn at 750 degrees this stove will make you move back if ran on high, I incorporated to echo fans off the top and made it even more interesting to look at, mounted a F 1100 fan off a Regency stove fits perfect and moves air very effectively. Any chimney over 15' may need a barometric damper to keep this stove under control.

 

[DexterDay]

I Have one installed and they will amaze anyone who install's one they will operate differently depending on how the chimney configuration is but they can be dialed in with a change on their burn pot.
They were tested with a 15' tall 3" vent and could be controlled on low to 350 degrees with a high burn at 750 degrees this stove will make you move back if ran on high, I incorporated to echo fans off the top and made it even more interesting to look at, mounted a F 1100 fan off a Regency stove fits perfect and moves air very effectively. Any chimney over 15' may need a barometric damper to keep this stove under control.

Welcome to the Forum Smokester...

Interested in hearing more on the Wiseway and also any pics and/or video you might want to share? Is the Wiseway in your home, greenhouse, shop, etc?

Many here are intrigued by this stove and I am sure there will be a barrage of questions?

Again, welcome.

 

[Lake Girl]

I Have one installed and they will amaze anyone who install's one they will operate differently depending on how the chimney configuration is but they can be dialed in with a change on their burn pot.
They were tested with a 15' tall 3" vent and could be controlled on low to 350 degrees with a high burn at 750 degrees this stove will make you move back if ran on high, I incorporated to echo fans off the top and made it even more interesting to look at, mounted a F 1100 fan off a Regency stove fits perfect and moves air very effectively. Any chimney over 15' may need a barometric damper to keep this stove under control.

Is the company working on the UL certification for the boiler portion?

 

[Shaw520]

I Have one installed and they will amaze anyone who install's one they will operate differently depending on how the chimney configuration is but they can be dialed in with a change on their burn pot.
They were tested with a 15' tall 3" vent and could be controlled on low to 350 degrees with a high burn at 750 degrees this stove will make you move back if ran on high, I incorporated to echo fans off the top and made it even more interesting to look at, mounted a F 1100 fan off a Regency stove fits perfect and moves air very effectively. Any chimney over 15' may need a barometric damper to keep this stove under control.

Pictures ?

 

[The Smokester]

Welcome to the Forum Smokester...

Interested in hearing more on the Wiseway and also any pics and/or video you might want to share? Is the Wiseway in your home, greenhouse, shop, etc?

Many here are intrigued by this stove and I am sure there will be a barrage of questions?

Again, welcome.

I have one in my shop I will attache a vidio link

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for those wanting to know how they can be applied to heating water.
They plan on having the water jacket listed and tested in the near future right now it can be used as long as the stove is not installed inside a home.

 

[The Smokester]

Is the company working on the UL certification for the boiler portion?

Yes they plan on having the water jacket tested and listed when they have their next model retested for mobile home approval.