Wood stove liner insulation

[Woodenlegs23]

how important is buying an insulation liner when buying a chimney liner for a wood stove? Have about a 25' run up the chimney. Will it help wood stove performance and efficiency signifigantly? Thanks.

 

[begreen]

Insulating a liner greatly increases safety. It will also keep the flue gases warmer which can reduce creosote buildup.

 

[Woodenlegs23]

Insulating a liner greatly increases safety. It will also keep the flue gases warmer which can reduce creosote buildup.

Do you recommend anywhere in particular to buy from?

 

[begreen]

Rockford Supply and ChimneyLinerDepot are popular sites.

 

[Woodenlegs23]

Thanks! Appreciate it.

 

[Excavator]

I bought my insulated liner from ChimneyLinerDepot and installed few years ago for my old Vermont Castings Encore. The performance was outstanding and the liner gets very little creosote when I brush. The results are great and you will not regret it. I also fabbed up a block off plate after removing the damper and part of the damper frame to allow room for 8 inch liner that the encore wants

 

[Woodenlegs23]

Thanks for the info. The picture helps a lot too.

I think I am buying a Jotul which has a 6" opening so I would need to buy a 25' liner with a 6" diameter correct? Also, the stove will be entering the chimney horizontally so I believe I need a tee connector. What is the difference between liners? Obviously I do not want to do a rigid liner for working way down the existing chimney. Below is the setup I was going to buy. Any advice? Thanks.

 

[Excavator]

Hi fellow Jersey guy, yes 6 inch is pretty standard. My encore required 8 inch if run with doors open in front but I never do that. I could have used 6 inch but my masonry block was 12 x 13 and I opted on 8 inch. The flex is the way to go in my opinion. If you call chimney liner depot they are VERY helpful in what you need. They sold me a kit with what ever I needed including top cover that flips open to brush down from top plus the T for bottom that has easy remove bottom cap to remove for inspection and collecting . They also sold me a poly brush for liner cleaning

 

[claydogg84]

Hi fellow Jersey guy, yes 6 inch is pretty standard. My encore required 8 inch if run with doors open in front but I never do that. I could have used 6 inch but my masonry block was 12 x 13 and I opted on 8 inch. The flex is the way to go in my opinion. If you call chimney liner depot they are VERY helpful in what you need. They sold me a kit with what ever I needed including top cover that flips open to brush down from top plus the T for bottom that has easy remove bottom cap to remove for inspection and collecting . They also sold me a poly brush for liner cleaning

I agree. When I called CLD they were extremely helpful and set me up with everything I was going to need for my particular install. This is my first season with the liner and I'm very happy with its performance.

 

[bholler]

This is the type we always use for wood stove liners it is allot thicker and is smooth interior i think it is worth the extra money but what you posted will work fine if you dont want to spend the extra

 

[Woodenlegs23]

This is the type we always use for wood stove liners it is allot thicker and is smooth interior i think it is worth the extra money but what you posted will work fine if you dont want to spend the extra

What was the type you were referring to? Nothing was attached to your post. Did you mean the liner from chimney depot?

Thanks

 

[bholler]

http://www.chimneylinerdepot.com/store/5118/product/Flex-King-HD-Chimney-Liner-6X25-Insert-Kit.html

Oops sorry here it is. It is heavy wall flexible liner many liner makers have it and there are 2 different thicknesses available we use the thinner one for people that are not going to use the stove all the time

 

[Excavator]

http://www.chimneylinerdepot.com/store/5118/product/Flex-King-HD-Chimney-Liner-6X25-Insert-Kit.html

Oops sorry here it is. It is heavy wall flexible liner many liner makers have it and there are 2 different thicknesses available we use the thinner one for people that are not going to use the stove all the time

Yes, the heavier is what I went with and worth the money. It has to be installed only one way as it has the top marked. The inside is slick!!

 

[bholler]

Yes, the heavier is what I went with and worth the money. It has to be installed only one way as it has the top marked. The inside is slick!!

Yeah in my opinion it is much better than the thin wall stuff in many ways. But don't install it upside down i have seen a few and it usually is not pretty

 

[Woodenlegs23]

So what is the actual difference between the 316 Ti liner I propise up top and the Hd liner from chimney depot? I'm assuming the HD liner is just a bit thicker?

 

[bholler]

So what is the actual difference between the 316 Ti liner I propise up top and the Hd liner from chimney depot? I'm assuming the HD liner is just a bit thicker?

It is allot thicker, has a smooth wall, is more flexible, has a smaller outside diameter, and is very different construction.

 

[Excavator]

So what is the actual difference between the 316 Ti liner I propise up top and the Hd liner from chimney depot? I'm assuming the HD liner is just a bit thicker?

The depot has both on their site. The HD is thicker and smoother

 

[bholler]

So what is the actual difference between the 316 Ti liner I propise up top and the Hd liner from chimney depot? I'm assuming the HD liner is just a bit thicker?

Also for wood you really dont need to pay the extra for 316 304 is plenty for wood if you were going to use coal oil or gas in it you would need 316 but not wood. Heavy wall is a continuous interlock and light wall has ribs and then a crimp. I have never pulled a heavy wall apart but have a few times with light wall. I have also torn light wall when installing it and you are not going to do that with heavy wall

 

[Woodenlegs23]

Ok well it looks like I am going to go with the heavy wall from the depot. Thanks for the help. I was about to buy from Rockford.

One more question. Do you think it is a good idea to buy cleaning kit from ten while purchasing the liner or can I get at a later time?

 

[bholler]

either way but you might as well get it all at once unless you can pick it up locally it will save on shipping. And like i said the light wall will work but i much prefer the heavy wall stuff