Woodstove Shopping

[bigmike0601]

I need a new stove to fit better on this pad. I live on the coast of Delaware in a 1400 sqft rancher. Is the Flame 1.5 any good and will it be safe with wall behind it unprotected? Do woodstoves come with a heat shield on the back to fit my application without modifications to the wall? If so, does the Flame 1.5 come with such shield? I just need some advice on woodstoves in the 1-1.5k price range to fit on this space. Thanks!

 

[Slow1]

Some measurements would be very helpful here. From where the pipe comes down, how much space is there to the wall? How far forward? Just the dimensions of the pad and the distance to the back would help a lot as it is hard to guess the sizes. I'm assuming the pipe is centered left/right.

Also do you know what that pad is made out of? i.e. is it tiled over a wood base or what exactly is under there? That could come into play if the stove placed on there requires a specific insulation factor (something beyond simple ember protection)

 

[Slow1]

To answer one of your questions though - yes many stoves do come shielded/designed such that no heatshield is required on the rear wall.

The question for your install may come down to hearth pad requirements (Size as well as insulation) and how creative you get with your piping - you may end up having to have the pipe go up and then forward a bit to meet the ceiling placement in order to put the stove back far enough to have proper front clearance.

 

[bigmike0601]

The pad is 56" square and appears to be tile over wood. The pipe is 23" from back edge to wall.

 

[begreen]

Most any stove is going to be a large improvement both in fit, heating efficiency, clean burning and clearances. Flame is made by SBI, the same company that makes Drolet, Enerzone, Osburn, etc.. It should fit ok as long as the mfg. clearances are honored.

 

[rijim]

The challenge will be to find a stove that will allow you to shift the stove about 18" back to get the clearance in front and still be good in the back. There is no way you will consider any mods to the wall?

 

[Sprinter]

As begreen suggested, You'll be in for a treat with just about any new EPA stove.The last stove I had was an Earth Stove (back in the 80's) and our new one is a world different. I imagine you will want to reuse the existing hearth, and if it is tile straight over wood with no R value, then make sure any stove you look at requires ember-only hearth protection. Fortunately, most of the newer offerings do. A 56" square hearth and your pipe clearance should handle most anything you look at, but study carefully the requirements of anything you consider. That stovepipe does look pretty far forward, but if you need to, you could always add some ember protection to the front of the hearth to get more front clearance. Or even install an offset to the pipe if necessary.

Regarding models, everyone here has their favorite which is generally the one they have themselves. Depending on the climate there and build quality of the house (insulation, draftiness, etc), you may want to start looking at stoves in the 2 cubic foot range. In my personal experience and IMO, the best bang/buck price tends to be around $1750 for a "typical" non-cat stove of that size, but there are less. Installation cost could hurt if you have to replace your stovepipe with 6" (most common size) insulated pipe and chimney. What size is that pipe? You'll have to decide between cat or non -cat (a favorite topic around here). Those are all factors you will need to study.

 

[HotCoals]

For sure I would hope to get a top exit flue instead of rear.
If you can't because of clearances I would install a rear firewall.

 

[bigmike0601]

Does anyone have any make/model recommendations?

 

[bigmike0601]

As begreen suggested, You'll be in for a treat with just about any new EPA stove.The last stove I had was an Earth Stove (back in the 80's) and our new one is a world different. I imagine you will want to reuse the existing hearth, and if it is tile straight over wood with no R value, then make sure any stove you look at requires ember-only hearth protection. Fortunately, most of the newer offerings do. A 56" square hearth and your pipe clearance should handle most anything you look at, but study carefully the requirements of anything you consider. That stovepipe does look pretty far forward, but if you need to, you could always add some ember protection to the front of the hearth to get more front clearance. Or even install an offset to the pipe if necessary.

Regarding models, everyone here has their favorite which is generally the one they have themselves. Depending on the climate there and build quality of the house (insulation, draftiness, etc), you may want to start looking at stoves in the 2 cubic foot range. In my personal experience and IMO, the best bang/buck price tends to be around $1750 for a "typical" non-cat stove of that size, but there are less. Installation cost could hurt if you have to replace your stovepipe with 6" (most common size) insulated pipe and chimney. What size is that pipe? You'll have to decide between cat or non -cat (a favorite topic around here). Those are all factors you will need to study.

I'ts 6" pipe going to 8" at the ceiling.

 

[Sprinter]

Does anyone have any make/model recommendations?

Yes

 

[Sprinter]

I'ts 6" pipe going to 8" at the ceiling.

I'll defer any flue questions to others, but I think that 8" flues or chimneys can be a problem for stoves that are designed for 6". Most models you will be looking at will want 6". Bigger is not necessarily better.

BTW, thanks for sending the pic in your first post. They always help...

 

[bluedogz]

Does anyone have any make/model recommendations?

And here we go.

 

[thetooth]

Take a trip up to Byler's just west of Dover . They have a good selection of stove and experienced installers . Bring some photos to help explain your situation .

We bought a Jotul F3cb off them last year and are very pleased with the stove , install , and all the follow up questions we had .

 

[bigmike0601]

Take a trip up to Byler's just west of Dover . They have a good selection of stove and experienced installers . Bring some photos to help explain your situation .

We bought a Jotul F3cb off them last year and are very pleased with the stove , install , and all the follow up questions we had .

I'm trying to learn as much as I can before I talk to a salesman, but that's not a bad idea. I've seen them in the Guide and friends have bought from there too.

 

[Sprinter]

I'm trying to learn as much as I can before I talk to a salesman, but that's not a bad idea. I've seen them in the Guide and friends have bought from there too.

That's an excellent idea. That way you know what questions to ask and how to gauge the answers. When I was shopping, I often asked questions I already knew the answers to just to hear the answer. It was a very helpful tactic.

 

[thetooth]

We are very pleased with the Jotul brand . I am heating just under 1500 sq feet and the stove will keep the house toasty . My Uncle bought a Castine from them the year before and he is pleased with it . I found their salesman to be very knowledgeable and sincere . They actually got one of the guys from the warehouse to come talk to me because he owned a F3cb for the past few years .

They also sell the Hearthstone brand and a few others . Check out their website .