Zurn waterless urinal review

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EbS-P

Minister of Fire
Jan 19, 2019
1,483
SE North Carolina
We had did a big renovation. I decided that with my self and four boys in the house a urinal was a good option for the main upstairs bathroom. I liked the idea of a waterless urinal as an environmentally friendly option. And I think they look better in a residential bathroom. After 16 months of use I thought I would share my thoughts about the Zurn waterless urinal.


For a house with lots of boys age 10-3 it’s been really nice. It’s so much much easier to clean on and around than a toilet. And the floor stays cleaner. For that reason alone I highly recommend it.

however the regular 3000 use maintenance schedule is completely misleading. My guess is that would be about 3 months in our house. And cleaning out the trap is GROSS. Easily the worst household task I have ever done. I can get by cleaning it out every 6 weeks but really should do every 4.

who ever designed this has never had to clean one out. I can almost guarantee it. We came home from a two week vacation to find it completely clogged. I removed the trap but the clog was after the trap.

cost: about the same as a nice toilet (pre covid) Inspector required water to be run to the waterless urinal. It takes a 2” drain pipe.

Savings: Not much money. I’m guessing it saves 5-10,000 gallons year or 5-10%. The sealant (4-6) ounces ever 4-6 weeks is $80 a gallon.

the smell: not bad no worse than a toilet that 4 boys are using come cleaning day. Nice after maintaining as the sealant (soya oil) is perfumed. Everyone said we would hate it and we would be tearing it out. It’s fine.

For a house with lots of boys it’s great. (If you can stomach the cleaning. did I say is was gross?). It keeps the kids out the the master bath (the only other bathroom upstairs) 95 % of the time).

There you go. Saving the world one trip to the bathroom at a time.

Evan

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clancey

Minister of Fire
Feb 26, 2021
1,736
Colorado
I think it is a good idea especially with a household of mainly men..Its sad that they do not work on the cleaning aspect of it--automatic maybe like a dishwater or something with suds and hot water connected when you push it on...There must be a way to help that situation..I did not even know they had them for household use--that's how I am not updated on this important everyday function..clancey
 

begreen

Mooderator
Staff member
Nov 18, 2005
90,626
South Puget Sound, WA
They installed waterless toilets about a decade ago in the men's rooms at our corporate offices. IIRC there was a biofilter involved that used anaerobic bacteria to break the urine down. I don't recall the brand, but odor was not an issue. The water savings when multiplied times 24 urinals really adds up. I see that the headquarters building now has Falcon urinals.
 

SpaceBus

Minister of Fire
Nov 18, 2018
6,284
Downeast Maine
I just sit down to pee and close the lid when I flush my normal toilet and nothing gets urine on it. Went for 25 years peeing into sit down toilets from a standing position until one day a woman asked if I could just sit to pee and not splash urine all over the toilet seat and lid. Being an oblivious man I never knew that's how the toilet and area around it got so nasty. My whole childhood of being asked "are you just going everywhere?" made a lot more sense to me after that. Now I only go standing up if I'm outside. Haven't had to clean urine off the toilet ever since.
 
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EbS-P

Minister of Fire
Jan 19, 2019
1,483
SE North Carolina
I just sit down to pee and close the lid when I flush my normal toilet and nothing gets urine on it. Went for 25 years peeing into sit down toilets from a standing position until one day a woman asked if I could just sit to pee and not splash urine all over the toilet seat and lid. Being an oblivious man I never knew that's how the toilet and area around it got so nasty. My whole childhood of being asked "are you just going everywhere?" made a lot more sense to me after that. Now I only go standing up if I'm outside. Haven't had to clean urine off the toilet ever since.
That’s sir is well said!
 

brenndatomu

Minister of Fire
Aug 21, 2013
6,571
NE Ohio
Our local grocery chain installed the waterless urinals in the mens restroom...they often had a little smell to them...dunno why, but they put standard urinals back in after a couple years.
 

peakbagger

Minister of Fire
Jul 11, 2008
6,616
Northern NH
I worked in a ultra modern office in VT that had waterless urinals. They used floating oil to act as a trap. When they worked they worked well but the janitors hated them as they required more routine maintenance. Hair in the strainer was particularly a problem.
 

Bad LP

Minister of Fire
Nov 28, 2014
1,795
Northern Maine
Piss on the seat or not cleaning up your splashes growing up was not a option. My father would straighten that behavior rather quickly.
A few years ago my wife and I also had a huge boxer that would not drink water out of his dish. He would only drink out of the bowl after a flush. He wanted the cold water.
Being our house is just the two of us keeping bathrooms clean was easy. Our friends are also not pigs.

In real life urinals are still filthy. I can’t figure out how some expensive waterless fixture prevents that.
 

begreen

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Staff member
Nov 18, 2005
90,626
South Puget Sound, WA
In real life urinals are still filthy. I can’t figure out how some expensive waterless fixture prevents that.
Waterless or watered, they still need daily cleaning when heavily used. Some people are pigs in public.
 
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Bad LP

Minister of Fire
Nov 28, 2014
1,795
Northern Maine
Waterless or watered, they still need daily cleaning when heavily used. Some people are pigs in public.
Pigs at home as well.
 

semipro

Minister of Fire
Jan 12, 2009
4,079
SW Virginia
We thought about installing a waterless urinal at our place and appreciate this kind of feedback.

I kinda hate to admit where I pee a lot. Let's just say that with 5 acres and privacy there are a lot of options.
Given what comprises urine and its fertilizer value it's kind of a shame we can't recycle it somehow.
I'm doing my part though.
 

begreen

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Nov 18, 2005
90,626
South Puget Sound, WA
We thought about installing a waterless urinal at our place and appreciate this kind of feedback.

I kinda hate to admit where I pee a lot. Let's just say that with 5 acres and privacy there are a lot of options.
Given what comprises urine and its fertilizer value it's kind of a shame we can't recycle it somehow.
I'm doing my part though.
Yeah, I pee outside too. I can't see traipsing into the house with garden shoes and dirty hands just to pee.
I have a friend that keeps a 5 gallon bucket filled with biochar on their deck. They have total privacy there, so peeing in the bucket is the norm. They even have a toilet seat for the missus. The biochar keeps it 100% odor free. It stays that way for several months. Then, they put the soaked biochar around plants to feed them. It is ridiculously high in nitrogen so a little goes a long way.
 
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tlc1976

Minister of Fire
Oct 7, 2012
898
Northwest Lower Michigan
We thought about installing a waterless urinal at our place and appreciate this kind of feedback.

I kinda hate to admit where I pee a lot. Let's just say that with 5 acres and privacy there are a lot of options.
Given what comprises urine and its fertilizer value it's kind of a shame we can't recycle it somehow.
I'm doing my part though.
We only had 1 bathroom growing up (and lived a mile from any neighbors) so my dad and I used to pee in the clover patch behind the shed. Well I was also interested in collecting 4 leaf clovers. So I noticed something odd in this patch. There were 4, 5, 6, and 7 leaf clovers. Guess we super fertilized them. I picked one of each and pressed them in a book to frame them but they dried up and fell apart.
 

clancey

Minister of Fire
Feb 26, 2021
1,736
Colorado
Your as crazy as I was--superstitious--I used to collect four leaf clovers and put them in a book and I ended up with four of them and mailed them to friends for good luck..When I was young we had our favorite spot on the way to the shore and I bet that is fertilized as well.Should go there and see if there are any clovers--lol lol...May we all have good Irish luck with wonderful health..clancey