Mhrischuk, Tom was probably quoted list price by the installer. Even at the discounted price you posted, ICC is 40% more than Simpson. Not an insignificant difference on 25+ ft of pipe.
mhrischuk said:100%? I posted a comparison earlier and it's not even close to double the price. I do agree if you are tight on cash or just don't have to have the Cadillac of pipes you can't go wrong with the other good name brands as others have said. Good doesn't necessarily mean expensive in all cases.
But Tom's quote seems real high.
You are absolutely correct about the supervent. Its made by selkirk and is essentially a renamed product to sell at the big box stores. Same material, same warranty as the more pricey selkirk brands. If I recall same connectors as well.Den said:Tom, the best deal you will probably be able to find on class-A pipe is the SuperVent at Lowe's or Menard's. ~ $20/ft, IIRC. You will find threads on it with critics expressing the same kind of "You'll burn your house down with that garbage" sentiment. You'll also find that some of these threads are several years old, and no problems with the SuperVent have been reported. Turns out that this pipe is made by Selkirk, and yes, it passes the same testing that any pipe legal to sell in the US does. My guess is that the guy who gave you the high quote wouldn't install pipe supplied by you for $500, since he wouldn't make any $ on the pipe, but you could find someone to install it, maybe for $800.
There are other brands that meet that spec, I googled it.turbocruiser said:Just as another data point, with 20ft worth of chimney the Excel system we chose was $200 US more than the MetalFab system that the stove shop typically installs. Not sure how MetalFab SS Interior + SS Exterior compares in its price point to some of the other makes mentioned here (MetalFab also makes another "economy" chimney with SS Interior and Galvalum or Galvanized Exterior)?
Interestingly, when I was trying to decide between the many chimney makes available around here, I called the tech lines to them all and asked all sorts of questions. They universally were polite, professional and knowledgeable. Then I called the tech line at Regency Fireplace Products and asked them. They told me that any 6" Class A Chimney system would work. They also told me that in their opinion ICC Excel is "the best of the best". But they then again reminded that really any 6" Class A Chimney system would work.
Now, here's the kicker to all those answers ... right in my installation manual it specifically states that the stove "must be connected to a factory-built chimney conforming to ULC S-629" So, technically nothing that I was interested in OTHER THAN the Excel product would have met that mandate! I'm sure it all would have worked but technically the Excel was the only option.
BTW, in the hope it helps, here's a thread that I started sorta mid stream in my research:
https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/76075/
oldspark said:There are other brands that meet that spec, I googled it.turbocruiser said:Just as another data point, with 20ft worth of chimney the Excel system we chose was $200 US more than the MetalFab system that the stove shop typically installs. Not sure how MetalFab SS Interior + SS Exterior compares in its price point to some of the other makes mentioned here (MetalFab also makes another "economy" chimney with SS Interior and Galvalum or Galvanized Exterior)?
Interestingly, when I was trying to decide between the many chimney makes available around here, I called the tech lines to them all and asked all sorts of questions. They universally were polite, professional and knowledgeable. Then I called the tech line at Regency Fireplace Products and asked them. They told me that any 6" Class A Chimney system would work. They also told me that in their opinion ICC Excel is "the best of the best". But they then again reminded that really any 6" Class A Chimney system would work.
Now, here's the kicker to all those answers ... right in my installation manual it specifically states that the stove "must be connected to a factory-built chimney conforming to ULC S-629" So, technically nothing that I was interested in OTHER THAN the Excel product would have met that mandate! I'm sure it all would have worked but technically the Excel was the only option.
BTW, in the hope it helps, here's a thread that I started sorta mid stream in my research:
https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/76075/
oldspark said:There are other brands that meet that spec, I googled it.turbocruiser said:Just as another data point, with 20ft worth of chimney the Excel system we chose was $200 US more than the MetalFab system that the stove shop typically installs. Not sure how MetalFab SS Interior + SS Exterior compares in its price point to some of the other makes mentioned here (MetalFab also makes another "economy" chimney with SS Interior and Galvalum or Galvanized Exterior)?
Interestingly, when I was trying to decide between the many chimney makes available around here, I called the tech lines to them all and asked all sorts of questions. They universally were polite, professional and knowledgeable. Then I called the tech line at Regency Fireplace Products and asked them. They told me that any 6" Class A Chimney system would work. They also told me that in their opinion ICC Excel is "the best of the best". But they then again reminded that really any 6" Class A Chimney system would work.
Now, here's the kicker to all those answers ... right in my installation manual it specifically states that the stove "must be connected to a factory-built chimney conforming to ULC S-629" So, technically nothing that I was interested in OTHER THAN the Excel product would have met that mandate! I'm sure it all would have worked but technically the Excel was the only option.
BTW, in the hope it helps, here's a thread that I started sorta mid stream in my research:
https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/76075/
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