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fran35

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Ok, so we all load the box up before we go to bed or work and wait to make sure the box settles down and doesn't turn into Chernobyl. However, I feel like an idiot when I stop and think about it, because I have no idea what I would do with a runaway stove--except run away myself. Obviously, I would shut down the primary air(I have an ESW 30), and then I have heard that you should put a piece of aluminum foil or a coke can on the secondary air intake at the bottom fo the stove. Other than that and besides sweating and puckering alot, what should I do? I have turned on the blower when the box gets really high and that brings the stove top temp down quickly, but is that really helping? Any pointers or advice would be appreciated. Thanks
 
There have been threads on this subject pretty recently that you might be able to find quickly. One thing that works well is to open the door to the stove. The heat will go up the chimney and the stove will cool. I see it when I reload. My stovetop thermo drops like a rock if I leave the door open for any length of time.
 
Either way works with the 30-NC. If you have it free standing you can slap a sheet of aluminum foil over the secondary intake under the back bottom of the stove and starve the secondary air. Or just pull the door wide open and it'll cool down fast. You will get a tan but it works.
 
Stuffing the Air Intake with an Oven Mitt worked for me. Not Fun having your face inches from an 800* stove, but that's the burning life.
Blower on High. Nearest Window wide open. Fan blowing at the Stove.
Wife gathering the children and calling you an idiot adds to the excitement......... Good that you're thinking ahead.
 
Troutchaser said:
Stuffing the Air Intake with an Oven Mitt worked for me. Not Fun having your face inches from an 800* stove, but that's the burning life.
Blower on High. Nearest Window wide open. Fan blowing at the Stove.
Wife gathering the children and calling you an idiot adds to the excitement......... Good that you're thinking ahead.

A video of that would be Hall of Flame material.
 
BrotherBart said:
Troutchaser said:
Stuffing the Air Intake with an Oven Mitt worked for me. Not Fun having your face inches from an 800* stove, but that's the burning life.
Blower on High. Nearest Window wide open. Fan blowing at the Stove.
Wife gathering the children and calling you an idiot adds to the excitement......... Good that you're thinking ahead.

A video of that would be Hall of Flame material.
I agree! Thank God my wife didn't have that capability back in the early days %-P
 
Or just pull the door wide open and it’ll cool down fast. You will get a tan but it works.
Some on here don't like to hear it, but the fact is, it works! Lots of COOL room air does the trick!
 
Thanks, much help.

""Wife gathering the children and calling you an idiot adds to the excitement…...... """

Hilarious
 
I'm lucky, if my stove sees "ludicrous temp" it's because of the wife's doing, not mine :) I make sure the chimney is clean and the stove is installed properly. With a good and proper setup, I can see a wood fire possibly doing damage to the stove but the structure should be just fine.
 
Troutchaser said:
Stuffing the Air Intake with an Oven Mitt worked for me. Not Fun having your face inches from an 800* stove, but that's the burning life.

More fun than opening the door wide and facing that 1400 degree interior. Good way to keep the eyelashes shortened.
 
If ya want fun, try blocking off the secondary air intake on a 30-NC with the back half buried in the fireplace. Close on each side. Don the field jacket, don the gloves and try real hard to reach all the way back there with the sheet of foil without your cheek touching the side of the stove.

The next time it happened I said screw it and just opened the door and it came right back down. Opening the door broke the vacuum for the secondary air and brought the bad boy to its knees.

You can just open the door and back up. No tan required.
 
Bart thanks for the laughs 1st thing in the morning! You are definitely a member of the Hall of Flame!

Ray
 
For those who open the firebox door, throwing in a bunch of ashes or sand will also work quite fast to cool a fire.
 
BrotherBart said:
If ya want fun, try blocking off the secondary air intake on a 30-NC with the back half buried in the fireplace. Close on each side. Don the field jacket, don the gloves and try real hard to reach all the way back there with the sheet of foil without your cheek touching the side of the stove.

Yeah, that's right, I remember pics of your install. I'd love to see a video of that on YouTube. Hell, I'd ever pay to see it. :lol:
 
Battenkiller said:
BrotherBart said:
If ya want fun, try blocking off the secondary air intake on a 30-NC with the back half buried in the fireplace. Close on each side. Don the field jacket, don the gloves and try real hard to reach all the way back there with the sheet of foil without your cheek touching the side of the stove.

Yeah, that's right, I remember pics of your install. I'd love to see a video of that on YouTube. Hell, I'd ever pay to see it. :lol:

I would love to hear the sound track of BB while that performance was going on............................................
 
Interesting question and advice...but it raises an additional question from me...

How long should the door remain open before it is safe to close it and regain control over the fire?
 
I've only had to do this once, but if I recall correctly it was for a short time. Maybe 10-15 secs.? Part of that was me regaining composure and watching for the flue temp to drop.
 
fdegree said:
Interesting question and advice...but it raises an additional question from me...

How long should the door remain open before it is safe to close it and regain control over the fire?

I had an "incident" and it took a series of opening an closings over a period of time to manage it. My situation was that I thought I might have touched off the framing in the house and I wanted the fire out or close to it. So I was running around like a nut back and forth to the attic and on the roof feeling the chimney.

I was also shooting small amout of water at the base of the fire with a spray bottle while trying not to hit the glass or shock the metal and the heat was intense. It was the most fun I've had in awhile. At the time I felt like those guys that were tasked w/ putting out the Iraqi oil well fires. With that behind me and some perspective I can say opening the door was very effective and the way to go to the stove temp down.

After a little while and in between I actually managed to post here a couple times for advice, thanks again BB and the others.
 
fran35, your a U.S. Marine, just yell at it, say a few degrading things, then threaten to kick it's ass! The stove will cool itself off after that............... ;-)

Just messing with ya. From one Vet to another. BTW, 12/10/11, Go ARMY beat Navy! :cheese:
 
sheepdog000 said:
fran35, your a U.S. Marine, just yell at it, say a few degrading things

Tried cursing a blue streak out at the stove, but after the verbal abuse subsided I realized the #### I said to the stove would be the same things it would be saying to me if it could.

pen
 
Yeah. I was an NCO a long time ago and I kept using that best command voice on the stove during the climb to a thousand degrees last year. I actually just stood there and gave it orders to see if it would keep climbing. Wasn't dressing for the occasion again or gonna go cheek to cheek with it again.

When it hit a grand I just said "Drop and give me twenty." and opened the door wide and watched it choke. But make sure you have floor protection out front. It is very possible that when that cool air hits the load a lot of popping could go on and you do not want a big hot coal in the middle of Momma's couch. Or Poppa's crotch for that matter. :coolsmirk:
 
Just open the door an inch. That can help contain/deflect a lot of poppers.
 
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