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about to pull the trigger on a BK princess...some concerns

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by tobaccogrower, Nov 24, 2012.

  1. tobaccogrower

    tobaccogrower Member

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    right now i'm running a knock off of a VC intreped. 6 inch single pipe about 4 feet up then a 90 into the thimble into the ss 6inch liner going about 23-25 up.

    i'm worried about getting the Blaze king. from reading on here after getting a load of coals going to load the stove then keep the damper open until the cat is in the operating range. right now it takes my stove about 10 minutes to get up untill the stove pipe temp is at or above 500*. this is when i close the damper. stove top is usally only 250* or so.

    how long does it take to engage the cat on one of these blaze kings? when its time to engage what temps are you guys running on the pipe(18 above collar, single wall)? after running the Neverburn i'm afraid of temps above 500* on the pipe. am i worring too much?

    right now i'm waiting on the dealer to call me back to see if i can come down and make a deposit tomorrow.a'm i worring for nothing? maybe i watch the stove too much? that dutchwest neverburn left a nasty taste in my mouth if ya know what i mean!

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  2. HotCoals

    HotCoals Minister of Fire

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    You will be fine.
    When new the stove top will be 250 or a little higher when the cat is about to light off..about 500 inside at the cat.
    You don't have to rush right up to those temps but it seems most do..I tend to that on my king.
    Anyways temps inside your flue up high once or twice day won't hurt anything .

    When you say damper do you mean by-pass?
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    HotCoals Minister of Fire

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    BTW..you would just about have to double the temps to get a tube burner to light off compared to a cat stove.
  4. Chopslide

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    time to engage the cat depends on how/when you load the stove I usually burn down pretty far before loading (it just seems easier not as likely to burn myself easier to stuff the princess full)I dont use a thermometer on the pipe instead just the cat probe but these stoves are really user friendly easy to control heat and as you have probably read they burn forever
  5. David Tackett

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    As a new Cat owner all I can say is go for it. I was trying to get a BK or a Buck. Ended up with Buck cause BKs are rare here.
  6. tobaccogrower

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    yes i ment by pass. thanks for the replys. still waiting for the call back but i'm going for it! i hate the stove i have know. and the neverburn before it(i hate to hear the furnace fire up even more then bolth combined!) from my research here seems like i wont be dissapointed!
  7. jeff_t

    jeff_t Minister of Fire

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    If you do your part (meaning, don't forget about it with the bypass open and the door cracked, or something else silly), you'll never lose control of that Princess. After a couple of days, you'll realize your concerns were for nothing, and wonder why you didn't buy it sooner.
  8. tobaccogrower

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    love the billy c pic in the princess bride jeff t!

    i'm more then carful with my stove. thats why i want the BK. if i ever load and need to walk away, i wear my welder glove, lol....go ahead laugh, but it works!
  9. David Tackett

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    I keep a pair of welder gloves near my stove LOL.
  10. tobaccogrower

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    ya wont forget about the by-pass with one of thoes mits on your hand!
  11. rdust

    rdust Minister of Fire

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    Properly seasoned wood, and a chimney that drafts good and you won't have any concerns. :cool:
  12. Highbeam

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    I monitor flue temps because it's fun and easy and I'm a dork. I use a condar probe meter 18" above the stove in my double wall pipe. My old non-cat would daily run well over 1000 degrees and often bump 1250, when damped down fully it would cruise near 800. That flue was hot because non-cats dump tons of heat and enrgy into the flue in the name of getting a clean burn and for a pretty fire show I guess. Since running the princess, my probe meter has only been to 600 once or twice during warm up and the huge majority of the time sits at 400.

    Those are internal temps so using your surface meter on single wall pipe you will get temps of 50%. So yes, 200 degrees on the outside of that pipe most of the time. You can put your hand on it. Cat stoves don't dump heat up the flue to lower emissions.

    From cool stove with nearly no coals to cat engagement only takes a short time, maybe 30 minutes, and the whole warm up and start cruising process happens within an hour. The BK is not fast to warm up from cold, flue temps slowly climb in a dependable and predictable manner.

    It is not a stove that you need to even think about running away from you. It does what you want it to when you tell it to. That's a cat advantage.
  13. David Tackett

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    Very accurate Highbeam. My Cat stove runs around 200 degrees on wall of single walled pipe.

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